Who needs shopping channels?

If you’re wanting to make a ton of cash out of gullible people, setting up a shopping channel is no longer the way to go. Scaryduck takes a look at the newest craze, remarkably scammy quiz channels.

There’s a new one coming to Freeview called Quiz Call that appears to have the involvement of Channel 4. From the promo loop they’ve got there at the moment it looks absolutely horrid, cheap, nasty, whatever. But they are promising nice simple things like word grid puzzle type things.

More like Brainteaser, not the ridiculous “Mr and Mrs Pizza bought fifteen pizzas for their three children and ate sixty pizzas themselves. How many pizzas?” nonsense that you get on Big Game TV (which is currently plaguing the schedules of late night ITV2), where the answer appears to be some random number plucked from thin air.

“Yes, there are definitely 3276 pizzas there. Next question!”

I heard that this is nothing compared with what you get on Quiz TV though. Somehow I can’t quite believe that these channels aren’t illegal yet. Remember Ofcom catching AuctionWorld after goodness-knows-how-long (incidentally, a development that didn’t stop shopping channels from selling dodgy goods, but only made them get rid of ‘guide prices’).

Unfortunately I would be surprised if Quiz Call is the only quiz channel to end up on Freeview. The format is perfect for Freeview, because the 60p per second telephone calls provide the handy revenue that they miss out on by not being on a pay TV package. It used to be shopping channels. There are already four shopping channels on Freeview, and now we’re getting the quiz channels. Oh man!

109 comments

  1. I sometimes pass by Quiz TV and give it a couple of minutes before my head starts to ache, but I’ve NEVER seen anyone win anything. Ever. Also, one of Scooch presents on there… The horror!

  2. I don’t get Quiz TV but I caught the looped ad on Quiz Call last night and was suitably intrigued.

    But then I’ve been on Brainteaser so that sort of puzzle appeals 🙂

  3. There are dozens of these things on Sky Digital. I don’t understand how they aren’t illegal either, because they are so obviously rigged. I’m convinced that most of the people who phone in are actually connected to the games in some way, and it’s oh so convienient how they never explain how they got the actual answer.

    There’s also one called Bikini Beach where bored looking girls stand around talking absolute crap for hours on end. Dressed in bikinis, obviously. It’s the TV equivalent of the camgirl (aka webwhore).

  4. i seriously fucking hope that its not 60p a second for big game tv as stated at the beginning of this thread as i have to admit i was suckered in to phoning in with a solution to the Bobby Brick puzzle on 30 sept …obviously not being a member of the production crew i didnt get through but my “mate”said it was 60p a call !!!now i might have to watch it again just to check.
    BTW did anyone work out how they got 1236?

  5. fuck you bastards bikini beach rules.. you obviously have not watched it for long enough the girls on there are genius

  6. we rang quiz call the other nite and kept getting sorry you have not been successful this time please try again we kept trying for 38 minutes before we got through but had a wrong answer omg the next day bt rang us up to say we had made over 218 preuim rate phone calls at a cost of over £119 when we explained sometimes we got an engaged town we were told we were still being charged for it I think it is all a big con we had no idea of us being charged for a service that was not available something needs to be done about it and make it more fairer and quiz call should make it more clearer of the charges

    if you look on there website they do not even have a email address to contact them on !

    Surely sky freeview and ntl should be more responible and held to account

  7. we are sat watchin it now and its the biggest load of shite weve ever seen. we were suckered into it but never got through but she never seems to answer the fuckin phone. if we did win the jackpot wed need it to pay off the phone bill. and how annoying is she . i feel like smashin the fuckin telly . ban it for fucks sake.

  8. I sat for 3/4 hour last night watching quizcall. I was unable to leave, desperate to se what the answer was. The question was to add up
    1) The number of x-factor judges
    2) The number of days in a year
    3) The sum 3 + 2 x 3
    4) The numbers on your telephone

    The answer was over 3000. No one got this, after 1 hour of trying, and the money rolled over to some ridiculously easy question. Then, as soon as everyone is eagerly entering the easy question, no-one is allowed on air for 20 minutes, while the presenter puts in an occasional comment and people waste their money.

    It is a HUGE con.

  9. I had to laugh the other day some bloke won 1 of the competions on quiz call and when the presenter asked what he was going to do with the winnings (200) he said pay the phone bill off lol you should of see the presenters face drop they dont like to here that it seems !

  10. I think all as been said here about Quizcall its going down the panhole like Auction-world did.
    I’m going to contact Channel 4 and inform them they are way out of line with this muck show, I’ll also report my current findings to Ofcom.

    One evening Alex Kramer ask viewers to email in there jokes and she’ll read them out on air!! she obviously has not done her homework, neither has the student producer!!

    The other evening she read out some emails from supposed viewers…Alex if you read this, their is no feckin email on quizcall so stop this bullshit ok!!

    Last but not least it is quite apparent that many callers are fake…you will often hear the presenter say, for instance, presenter:- “whats your name”…caller:- “john”, presenter:-“and whats your answer john”…..caller:- “john”!!

    This line of dialogue is repeated throughout the evening.

  11. quiz call is a load of shit they say you will get through i rang nearly all night and never got through n put it this way my dad where’nt to happy bout the phone bill!!!!!! lol oop’s
    there is always more then one answer to most of the questions and the questions that are always on for more then 4hours they should tell you how to do them or how they worked the answer out.!!!

  12. Quizcall is totally fraudulent. The extended puzzles could have almost any answer and when the “correct” answer comes through they do not explain how it was arrived at. I have complained online to Ofcom but they warn that they do not investigate individual complaints but monitor the number of complaints. So please could anyone reading this make a complaint to Ofcom. We need to get this channel stopped. Many vulnerable people are being ripped off – that is having money stolen from them. Please act now. Thanks.

  13. Saw quizcall the other night where it was guess how much money was in the picture. There were only notes (no coins) yet somehow the answer was more than £150 and less than £155 and the presenter only seemed to answer the phone every 5 minutes. Either nobody phones in, or lots of people phone in but never get to the studio.

  14. Right – we can prove something is linked between channel four and quizcall.co.uk – go to any Whois search such as Nominent or someone reputable-find the whois on quizcall.co.uk – take note of the address – then do another search but on channel4.co.uk – you notice it’s the same address-how very strange. Hope this helps you guys. let me know

  15. It’s not really a secret that Channel 4 and Quiz Call are linked. It’s just that they don’t really talk it up much. If you look on the Quiz Call website you’ll see that their address is the same as Channel 4’s. If you want to make a complaint about Quiz Call though, contacting Ofcom should be your best bet.

  16. And guess which one of the blonde female presenters (the best one if you ask me, and worth watching on her own) has this in her CV:

    “She also currently undertakes project work for Which?, a consumer magazine, in conjunction with the Consumer’s Association. She specialises in business and product research, often identifing particularly newsworthy areas worth investigation for the consumer’s benefit.”

    So there she is, on the one hand conning us out of money, and on the other working for a consumer protection magazine.

  17. The best presenter is Liz – fabulous eyes, bit bossy, a real dominatrix fantasy woman! By the way guys I did get thru once (of about a dozen items) but my answer was wrong – yes one of those unfathomable “how many” quizes. I wouldn’y worry about this channel though, as a novelty it’s bit fun for a week, but can you really see it lasting? No No No!

  18. I THINK QUIZ CALL IS A GOOD CHANNLE AND TH ALEX KREMORE IS THE BEST DOES ANY ONE NOW WHEN SHE IS BACK MIKE

  19. i think there is another kind of tricks behind quiz call program which is:if you r a first time caller u get through directly probably coz their system recognizes it is a new number calling.this is how it starts and from that time on you keep tryingand..charged.

  20. Why can’t I ever get through to the show? it just seems to be a money making scam. I have rung many times knowing the correct answer and there has been nobody on the line to your presenter for a quite lengthy amout of time so I am spreading the word about this scam which can end up in gettin a very large phone bill.

  21. Interesting comment two up from this one. My wife rang in and got through first time but then after that could never get through. Didn’t try too many other times, though, as we ran out of ways to work out how to get to the answer.

  22. I’ve just watched a Quizcall puzzle featuring 5,10,15,20 and 25kg weights. Count the kg was the question. The answer wasn’t the sum of the visible weights (120kg), but 274kg. Where did that answer come from?

  23. I got suckered by Quiz Call last night… Wasted money on calls (approx 40 – too easy with redial) and some 3.5 hours just to know what they deemed the correct answer (out of millions of potentially correct ones).

    Of course no-one got it right and everyone was then invited to call in (yep they want more blood) for a pre 2am free-for-all on an answerable question… By this time they could of probably given away 450,000 not the measly 4,500 that it had grown to (from 1,500 when I first seen the quiz) and still made a fortune.

    I cannot believe how alluring and scammy it is… It was some “txt it” quiz where you “Add all numbers together” on a mobile phone text message.

    The message was similar to (memory recall)

    PLS W8 10MINS
    B4

    XX
    LOL

    Anyway the answer was 10253…. yeah cool, they probably was counting in Martian numerals at base 69.

    Total con, bad way for Freeview to be going.

    Anyway I have had a moan to ofcom and can promise I will never watch or call again….

    A total play on a trusting audience… lambs to the slaughter…

    Cheers

  24. […] And then there’s Channel 4’s other channel, QuizCall. I wrote about this earlier in the year, and that post has attracted almost two dozen angry people in the comments. For those of you who haven’t seen any of these scammy quiz channels, lucky you. But how have you avoided them? They are appearing everywhere! It’s not just on QuizCall. […]

  25. Quiz Call is a total con, scam and blatant rip-off!!
    Anyone who has observed ‘Word Up’ and watched it for long enough should realise all the shenanigens going on behind the scenes. It’s very interesting. There is something very dodgy going on and I would urge people not to waste their money ringing up. Believe me, you will not get through. It’s worth watching the ‘Presenters’ performing. Each one has to keep waffling for ages and ages. It’s SO tacky and better still, cringeworthy. GREAT! but don’t get sucked in and decide to ring!!

  26. Yes i too believe its a scam the hot button which makes calls
    come through to the studio is supposed to be random.But is it? No as the studio can make it go off when they feel like.Also over christmas up till the 3rd jan 2006 they are giving away 1,000,000 (million £) by guessing a randomly generated 3 digit PIN which is changed ever day. What a complete scam and a con.. Currently there are at least 3 more quix type shows. Quizcall is ther only one that broadcasts for over 14 hrs a day
    Bad news Man! Cheers

  27. Arghh… yes its a scam. I called 10 times (yes, i’m an idiot) and got ‘you phonecall has not been selected…’ recorded message. Yes I am an idiot.
    Really annoying. And some guy with television feedback got through about five times! argghh!
    I know its Love BITES but cant fecking get through.
    Annoying!
    DONT CALL IN. cant believe i got suckered and just thought the lines might be busy.

  28. Echoing the previous nick…I too got suckered in to calling to identify madonna tracks…the only thing that saved me from running up a phone bill that would make brazil’s national debt seem like a minor fiscal inconvenience was my wife coming downstairs and saying”What are you playing at you drunken wanker…dont you know its a show for suckers!” God bless her….and death to quizcall…Just say NO!!

  29. There was a hilarious convo between a ditsy presenter and a brain-dead chav (just wait til his parents get the phone bill!) on ITVs Quizmania recently.

    You had to fill in the list of “crisp flavours”. Last flavour to be filled in on the board…

    Contestant: “mustard” (mustard crisps????!’).
    Presenter (even she was desperate to get the game over by this point): “erm, no… what goes with mustard?”
    Contestant: “I don’t know”
    Presenter: “It’s a meat”
    Contestant: “I don’t know”
    Presenter: “Think of an animal”
    Contestant: “Cow?”
    Presenter: “Erm… no… it’s got a curly tail”
    Contestant: “A pig?”
    Presenter: “Yes, but what meat comes from a pig and goes with mustard?”
    Contestant: “Pork?”

    Basically, by this time some wee is running down my leg and I’ve eaten half a pillow. Needless to say she more or less tells him to say “ham” just so that she could end the call. Quickly.

  30. Everyone this is hand on heart honesty. Me and my girlfriend see this channel andthought we knew an answer, we tryed getting through one night for god knows how long, to no answer. my mobile phone bill came through at 149 pound.
    and i instantly swore it is a scam and never to touch it again.
    then the other night not saying when just incase quizcall are reading. I tryed again just to quieten my gf down. on the word up game. and i got through. only to give the wrong answer. ok so ya can get through i thought. couple days later phone bill again 130 pound hence amount of times i must have phone my bill is usually 50-60 pound depending.

    then a night later my gf said give it another go. im a sucker i know!! but to my amazment i got through again on a count the numbers and add them up game. which was so obviously a scam as i got through twice and both times gave the wrong answer. this game went on to about 130 30 mins before the shut down. i felt well mugged off i was constantly on the phone ringing and hanging up, even gettin a bloke message come on saying our computers show you have made a lot of calls please be aware etc… well artound 130 they changed the game to a simple count the triangles. i counted them and had the answer. I phoned like crazy, and two people got through both giving wrong answers on a puzzle that was simple. i was determined this is a scam and blatently set up. but i was determined and they started a 3.00 minute countdown i got through again with two minutes remaining and was on the line waiting for an answer. the timer run out 0.00 phone rung on screen gf muted the telly and i was greeted to a hello quizcall i got through. bam gave the answer ringing bells lardy dar i won. hand on heart honesty hear i won £5000 i was asked to do the jackpot thing where you work your way up i got the first one wrong so what im supposedly £5000 richer. i was put through to an operator who took my details and given a customer service number, i was told a cheque will arrive within 28 days. I will post when this arrives and cashes into my bank. serious i find it hard to believe it even nbow, which i why i thought id check this all out. yes the rate is high but in my case £450 for £5000 is not bad going. i dont work for quizcall channel 4 or anything to do with tele. im a graphic designer in buckinghamshire. if this money does come then this channel is wicked. i doubt i will ever get through again but so what….honestly i was as sceptical as you guys the words that where coming out my mouth when i was constantly gettin please try agin or a engaged where unbelievable but its all paid off now. ive never won anything in my life. so if this is true its my first. fingers crossed it comes.have you ever thought about maybe there isnt a email on the site because of the amount of hate mail they would get….

  31. further to my last comment dont think you can get through by ringing ten times, i must have rung 80 times in all on each seperate occassion

  32. and further again in relation to the right up above comment, I have tryed agin last night, i didnt bombard it with calls as i have before but i phoned quite a few times. just to see. i didnt get through once. i dont believe it is as random as it says

  33. 8/9 January 2006

    Complete the familiar phrase
    FLOWER _______

    winning the £3000 prize after 3 hours….

    after rejecting
    FLOWER POT MEN no-no-no!
    FLOWER OF SCOTLAND no-no-no!

    FLOWER FARM – its so obvious!

    er… BAN IT NOW!! (I’ll vote for the party that says it will ban it, please note my local Conservative MP)

  34. OMG!!!!!! This channel messes with my head, what the hell is going on when its the “WORD UP” game??? For example now its the word DARK and obviously you have to think of a word that goes after that .. so far we have

    £500 – comedy, £400 Ness, £300 (?) £250 Mood and so on. Only the £300 one is missing
    There has been some great answers ie. horse. this is supposed to be a public survey so whats going on?? I know if I was approached in a shopping precinct if I could be bothered to answer and someone said to me what word comes after DARK, I really dont think Comedy would come in to mind or mood, I would think maybe, CHOCOLATE, AGE, even – NESS, which are there. Is is just me???????

  35. To my horror there are even more of these dam Ch’s men and motors between 4pm and 6pm. ITV 1 has quiz mania early morning.Quix nite live on Ch 20 FTN thye have had a stupid puzzle on for 3 nights and no one has won the money it’s too bloddy hard: Nine multyply by six divide by two Add Nineteen ???? the clue is Add all the numbers and when some onee does win through sheer luck they never say how it’s worked out. Total con These Tv companies must be brought to task.Contact watchdog@bbc.co.uk. The only one I do watch (some times) is on ITV2 “play Suduko I never ring just play at home for fun. But all these Ch’s shoiuld be banned in the first place. Don’t get hooked on to these Channels. Cheers

  36. Ha, ha, ha!! The dizzy blonde presenter tonight has a hearing problem. A contestant gave the answer as catch .. ment. She said it was correct and pulled off the top sticker which showed catch .. weight. later on someone gave the catchment answer again. This time she said it was correct and pulled off the right sticker. Lots of times she missed what the callers were saying.

  37. I started watching FTN’s Quiz Nite Live last Tuesday (first time ever) and became rather hooked on working out the answer. I was amazed at how long it took callers to get through, I put it down to lack of viewers but to my dismay after ringing several times (MUG MUG MUG!) i discovered that the whole thing was a big sham. The phone line was either engaged or I was told that I hadnt been selected. There was a gap of about 7 minutes at one stage, where no calls were taken, yet I had been phoning all that time. The puzzle has still not been answered and cant be answered. One plus five minus six add twenty two divide by two. One person came up with 5 million!!!!!!!!!!! I just watch for amusement now, spending me evenings screaming at the presenters. lol.

  38. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE!!!!!!!!
    Meh, I have sky and right now its on ch 284 😀

    QUIZ CALL ROCKS! I’d pay 60p just to speak to speak to the fit female presenters, right now Alex is on ( pretty 🙂 ) , but Zoe left at 9pm 🙁 (well pretty) lol

    Anyway I have been entering free on the web about 6 times this evening and i got the all back to hold the line once (even though i didnt get through)

    Well you get 140 free enteries a day on the web :D, so i dont think it is a con, you lot complaing are obviously forgetting they do need to get the money back for the puzzle (else quiz call will lose money) so yes it can take 10 minutes before the presenters answer the phone. And if you spend £100+ trying to get through then its your own fault, you should only phone a few times or use the web.
    Well at the moment there is a puzzle which is 8 girls names beginning with C (Currently 4 have gone) these are Cordelia (£400) Colette (£100) Caroline (£50) and Catherine (£20) and yes the presenters try to help you cos Alex is giviving hints to the name Candy. So meh and Alex is about to answer the phone in the next minute.

    Oh what a surprise the contestant just gave the name Candy and he won £150 (the presenters do try and help you) AND NO ITS NOT A RIP OFF, think there are many thousands of people phoning in.
    I support Quiz Call, and if it gets taken off the air I will not be happy and I will vent my frsutraiojn right on these boards.

  39. I used to work for quiz call and I’d just like to say that they are laughing at you. When I worked there we would laugh at all the people who called, we would call them SMF’s (sad mo fo’s). The answers by the way are generated at random by a simple program. It will use numbers and letters that spell numbers and the amount of spaces and what font is being used. It is a total con. FYI, I was sacked for asking about an elderly customer who spent £260 trying to get through. They weren’t very happy. The presenters can’t believe that people would pay to guess an almost impossible answer. One made some disgusting jokes about black people. She is the devil incarnate. Yours eternally. Mr. E.

    I have slightly edited this comment because it made accusations about a specific persondoctorvee

  40. i totally agree with lee,quizcall is wicked,alex kramer and zo christien are both stunning!if some people havent got enough self control to stop phoning in its their problem but why should we lose out on our favourite babes because there makin complaints!p.s iv won ova £800 on it and i use the free web entry,thats wot its there 4!

  41. I was a regular web entrant winner on Quizcall until they said they wouldnt accept no more entries from me due to them believing their data showed I was cheating in some way.
    Couldn’t believe they were accusing me of this.
    There was plenty of regular web winners,I used to hear them all the time but not so much now hmmmm.

  42. I can’t agree with the numerical answers being random. I know exactly how to solve the count the reds, count the eyes, kilos, pounds, etc puzzles. They DO use a definite formula for this sort of puzzle, although they do tweak it occasionally, and actually they get it wrong sometimes too. The problem is that when you do work out how to do these puzzles, and start winnning them, then you get asked not to play again. I’m £9,000 better off thanks to QuizCall, but they won’t let me play any more.

    The problem I see with them now is that like the other channels, they are stopping the games where it is (eventually) possible to work out an answer in favour of pure guessing games – word up, etc. You have no hope of making a profit with these, as the answers are so obtuse as to be unbelievable. That’s when they actually let a caller through to answer… It’s not a game of skill any more, it’s a game of chance.

  43. Have to say Quiz Call rocks for me – yes I’ve phoned, yes I’ve used the web. I reckon at most I’ve spent £200 on phone calls over 6 months to them. The wins from them have paid for so much that I could never have afforded to do – they are amazing. Don’t knock it just because you were silly enough to spend too much on phone calls or because you have not been successful. For the hours spent the return is low but it is FREE money if you get web entries that are successful. The phrase nothing life comes free is true because you have to put the effort in to get the FREE money!!! I can spend literally hours in front of the laptop day after day after day trying to get a successful web entry, and then find I have three or four. I honestly believe they are randomly chosen and I for one think they are the best thing going.

  44. I found out Im not the only one banned.I reckon they have banned the majority of regular web players and basically its up to the channel who they allow to play so no one has a leg to stand on.I wasnt doing anything wrong except for being selected and winning , it wasnt my fault they called me back after my entry and the less I entered the more success I was getting.
    The presenters make it seem they want repeat winners but in truth they dont.
    What they want are new players who will be hooked into calling and god help and web player who gets in the way of that.

  45. I ALSO WAS BANNED FROM PLAYING I GOT A LETTER STATING I WAS USING TECHNOLOGY TO GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER COMPETITORS I WAS NOT CHEATING I WAS DOING WEB ENTRIES LIKE MOST PEOPLE HAS ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS LETTER

  46. BANNED FROM PLAYING QUIZ CALL I GOT A LETTER STATING I WAS USING TECHNOLOGY TO GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER COMPETITORS I WAS NOT CHEATING I WAS DOING WEB ENTRIES LIKE MOST PEOPLE HAS ANY ONE ELSE HAD THIS LETTER I THINK THIS IS TERRIBLE WHY IS THIS QUIZ CALL SHOULD BE BANNED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE A BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG CON

  47. kate I am disgusted with what you have received – I would send a copy to Watchdog if I was you -along with a strong worded letter. I am just watching it now and they want an answer to BLACK …… Alex has more or less said the answer and its for £1,000. The clock is ticking and then they stopped it, then its ticking again and stopped again, when they finally get the “caller” – nobody there!!! Yeah right! so then they put a 10 min clock on. OUT OF ORDER

  48. QUIZ CALL IS OUT TO CON EVERYONE I WAS DISGUSTED WITH THIS LETTER I WROTE TO THEM FOR AN EXPLANATION AND NEVER GOT A REPLY THEY KEEP STOPPING AND STARTING THE CLOCK THE PHONE RINGS AND GUESS WHAT NO ONE THERE NO ONE WAS NEVER THERE IT IS JUST TO GET MORE MONEY OF MORE PEOPLE ,IF KNOW ONE PHONES THEY WOULD BE PUT OFF AIR AS IF IT WAS NOT PEOPLE PHONING THEY WOULD NOT GET THERE WAGES I WONDER HOW MUCH THEY GET PLENTY I GUESS, I THINK IT WAS DISGUSTING THE WAY I GOT TREATED DOES ANY ONE KNOW WATCHDOS ADDRESS AS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE PLEASE COULD YOU CONTACT ME .
    THANK-YOU

  49. Just had a look on their website and got this for you –

    If you wish to write to Watchdog, our address is:
    BBC Watchdog, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TS

    If you wish to telephone Watchdog, our contact
    number is:

    020 8535 1000

    I would also phone QuizCall on 0845 121 2890 (customer careline) and ask them to clearly explain what they mean by unfair technology!! GOOD LUCK – KEEP US INFORMED

  50. I SENT A LETTER TO WATCHDOG ABOUT QUIZ CALL AND A COPY OF THE LETTER THEY SENT ME STATING THE LETTER READS WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU HAVE RECENTLY BEEN PARTICIPATING ON OUR CHANNEL QUIZ CALL ,UNFORTUNATELY OUR DATA RECORDS SHOW ,TO OUR SATISFACTION ,THAT YOU ARE USING TECHNOLOGY TO GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER COMPETITORS ,OSTICH MEDIA WILL HAVE SOLE AND ABSOLUTE DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER TO ACCEPT ANY ENTRY OSTRICH MEDIA RESERVES THE RIGHT TO EXCLUDE YOU FROM THE COMPETITION IN THE EVENT THAT OSTRICH MEDIA BELIEVES ,IN OSTRICH MEDIA SOLE DISCRETION THAT YOU MAY BE USING TECHNOLOGY TO GAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER CONTESTANTS THEREFORE TAKEN THE DECISION NOT TO ACCEPT ANY FURTHER ENTRIES FROM YOU AND WE ASK YOU NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMPETITION THAT IS WHAT THE LETTER STATED ALL I WAS DOING WAS ENTERING BY THE WEB I HAVE PHONED QUIZ CALL AND WROTE THEM A LETTER ASKING WHAT DO THEY MEAN I HAVE NOT GOT A REPLY WHEN I PHONED THE PERSON ON THE PHONE DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY ALL SHE SAID WAS WHAT IT SAYS ON THE LETTER I SAID I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LETTER ALL I WAS DOING WAS WEB ENTRIES ARE YOU NOT SUPPOSE TO DO WEB ENTRIES SHE SAID YES I SAID WELL THAT IS ALL I WAS DOING SHE AND THEN THE PHONE WENT SILENT SHE DID KNOW WHAT TO SAY I SAID I WILL BE TAKEN THIS LETTER TO SOMEONE AND SHE PUT THE PHONE DOWN I THINK THIS IS A DISGRACE AS ANTONE ELSE RECEIVED THIS LETTER PLEASE LET ME KNOW

  51. There were some posts before yours Kate. I’ve had one and lots of people I know have from quizcall and a couple on quizmania they said it was using formfillers to get entries through quicker but quizcall havent said exactly but they wouldnt talk to me.

  52. jane do you still enter quiz call ,they would not talk to me either all i wanted was an explanation i even wrote them a letter,got no reply though , i think it is time they where of air

  53. No Kate I am banned. I rang every day until they said someone would get back to me but they never did. I wrote a letter and sent it recorded it was delivered but I never got a reply. Ive given up I don’t understand what I did wrong and some people still seem to be playing more than ever’ I was told to write to OFCOM or ICSTIS but dont think they will do anything, I would understand if they explained what I did but I really have no idea. Today they were saying enter as much as you like by phone or web and I used to do a bit of both but I feel sick now

  54. jane i know what you mean i still hear names that have been playing alot they say we like our regulars no they dont they want new callers there was a [person] they asked her how much she had won and she stated she won enough to go on a cruise and she still gets through which is a bit unfair i sent the letter to watchdog wait and see what happens as they do not state how much you can win before you are stoped when some people are still getting through time and time again

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned a specific person who isn’t here to defend herselfdoctorvee

  55. Jane I got banned on the 22nd Feb like you I played by phone and web .It seems they are after web players regardless of the amount of winnings you may have won .although I do agree some players are getting on more, less competition I suppose .They don’t seem to want to discuss the rules with anyone or say what people have done .

  56. I never got a reply from them either.I wasnt a heavy enterer, I watched everyday but only entered certain puzzles and only at a slow rate.I found I got called back only on certain weeks and often had days on end when I couldnt get a callback at all.
    I never tried to bypass their system or cheat in any way, they have made me feel like a criminal.Its about time they sorted out their crappy web entry system.

  57. A lot of interesting reading!
    Im watching Quizcall right now… there are some real “dopey” people calling in, and repeating the same answers… CAR “something”. Yes, I have dial the number 6 times now.. (3.60)with and without my CLI (caller ID) and get the unsucessful message…
    It does seem like a con, maybe the winners are Staged? or family friends etc? WHo knows.. and dont really care.
    What I do like is the way the blonde bimbo “strokes” her button on the screen….
    Yeah baby!
    Dont waste your money, make her get a new job, maybe on the Adult Channel? WHat do you think guys?

  58. They finally revealed the answer last night to the question: NINETEEN TIMES TWO PLUS SIXTY DIVIDED BY TWO – ADD ALL THE NUMBERS

    – the corect answer was 3480 !!!

    How the hell did they work that one out?
    Would someone please let me know soon.

  59. I’m that sad that I have Quizcall on most of the time, and there are a lot of regulars that get through, but I would hate to be them when their phone bill comes through! One of them is a creepy bloke called ‘[person]’, who ALWAYS gets through when Kat Porter is presenting, professing his undieing love for her! I’m surprised she hasn’t got a restraing order out on him.

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned a specific person who isn’t here to defend himselfdoctorvee

  60. has any one been banned from quiz call received a letter stating they can start playing quiz call again

  61. Kate have you had any reply from Watchdog regarding Quizcall.I know the banning letters say until further notice I would also be interested to know if the ban has a time limit on it.

  62. john i received a letter back from watchdog they said they would look into this, i do not know if the ban has a time limit ,that i would like to know as well ,when you phone quiz call they do not answer any questions they just state what is on the letter

  63. Iwonder if PRESENTERS:alan ennis,alex kramer,carole machin,cat porter ,charlie mcardle,dave virgo,derek gibbons,kait borsay,lawrie jordon,liz fuller,paul hendy ,ruth fracis,steve hyland, zo cristian,KNOW HOW MUCH GRIEF THEY CAUSE TO LOW INCOME FAMILIES and i wonder if they can figure out this clue ( irdyt lsimy cusm)

  64. Ive not had any replies from anybody. I contacted watchdog too but no reply.If QC said the ban was for so many months then I would fell better but what the heck does “until further notice mean” We need answers here.

  65. i know we need answers does until final notice mean you can never take part again

  66. I AM WATCHING QUIZ CALL AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE SAME CALLERS ARE GETTING THROUGH I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY I WAS BANNED WHEN THE SAME CALLERS ARE STILL GETTING THROUGH LIKE [person x] IS KNOW SAYING HER NAME AS [person x with name slightly altered]. AND ANOTHER ONE IS [person y] SHE SOUNDS AN OLD LADY , I AM GOING TO PHONE IN ONE NIGHT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS AS PEOPLE ARE NOT GIVING THERE REAL NAMES UNLESS THEY KNOW YOUR VOICE HAS ANYONE TRIED TO PHONE IN WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN BANNED?AS IT IS UNFAIR WHEN THEY LET OTHER CALLERS THROUGH THAT HAVE BEEN PLAYING A LONG TIME WHO DO THEY WORK THAT ONE OUT ,THEY BAN SOME PEOPLE AND NOT OTHERS , I PHONED AGAIN TO QUIZ CALL GOT NO ANSWERS THOUGH .

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  67. Annoying isnt it.I wasnt even getting on air very often and they banned me.There are some web players still playing who get on air every day , how on earth are they managing that many callbacks and getting away with it.
    Makes me sick.

  68. I have to agree with Gav about ‘[person]’. I’ve lost track of how many times he has got through to Cat’s part of the show, spouting poetry and proposing marriage. Cat looks absolutely terrified when she finds out its him. He is lucky not to find himself with an injunction at the moment.

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned a specific person who isn’t here to defend himselfdoctorvee

  69. that [person] does sound a freaky person i would be getting worried about that bloke incase he is waiting for her some night they should send him a banned letter

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned a specific person who isn’t here to defend himselfdoctorvee

  70. When I got banned I had only had a couple of little wins for weeks, I heard that [person a] this week at and at least 10 times a [person b] gets through so much she must have a dozen phones on the go…3 times now Ive heard her get through close together when she wouldnt even have time to put the phone down let alone try again. Last week they cleaned up with a [person c] and a [person d], a [person e]…then theres [person f] who at least pays for his calls and this week [person g], [person h] and [person i]. That [person j] is on several times a day. Well its a month this week since my letter and no response from QC, maybe they will send out another lot or let us play again. Not sure I want to now

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  71. yes i would like to know as well jane as it is really not fare at all that [person x] got through and won £1000 she is needing to get banned they said they love to hear from [person x] one of our regulars which is very angry when you and i and plenty more people where just doing the same and they get banned so why is she still getting to play along with a [person y] i am going to phone them to-morrow and ask if we receive a letter not to play until further notice does it mean never to play again i would like answers has antone got any answers out there please let me know
    thank-you

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  72. I think [people], etc. are phone entrants and therefore immune to being banned. But I have to say [person] is having a good few weeks lately, but she does have her good and bad points like when she had one of her first ever wins and either accidentally or deliberately said she had not won with Quiz Call before.

    The only good point is when she got through a couple of weeks ago on Word Up and said ‘train oil’. It made Zoe laugh and think it wouldn’t be there but it was, which in turn cracked both [person] and Zoe up.

    [Person] then proceeded to burst out laughing while she was doing the ladder jackpot and it spread to Zoe who couldn’t stop laughing for at least 5-10 minutes

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  73. Well I havent played it for a while now as I believe I am banned but without the letter. If I did receive the letter, I think I would send photocopies of it to rival quiz shows like Quizmania etc. they might read them out for a laugh and QC would just love that wouldnt they??? (not) Just watching it now and cannot believe how they drag it out – the word is John and you have to guess the surname of a famous John. We are sat here and guess who has just come through – [person] – yes [person] – she got it wrong tho – awwwwwwwww it was for 5 grand as well. They are being fair tho, they are taking a caller every hour instead of every 2 hours!!!!!! (Please ignore the sarcasm) FED UP that they are getting away with this! I want a letter now just so I can act on it.

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned a specific person who isn’t here to defend herselfdoctorvee

  74. I think your right [person x] is a phone entrant but Ive heard [person y] and [person z] and her screaming kids be called web entrants by the presenters. She is greedy and people like her spoil it for everyone else by abusing the system. [person z] gets calss through every day and sopmetimes so close together she must be cheating cos you cant even get two calls in that close – I rarely got through once a week let alone 4 times in 10 minutes even when I phoned I hardly ever got through why cant QC see it. I rang again on Thursday and they kept quoting the letter despite me saying it doesnt make sense. If they are going to ban people they should at least be consistent. I wish I had spent all day and night on there now, id probably still be allowed to play. Maybe [person z] should spned some of her ill gotten gains on her kids she obviously puts Qc first.

  75. I RECEIVED A BANNED LETTER AS WELL WHY SHOULD THIS BE ALLOWED IT DOES NOT STATE HOW MUCH YOU ARE ALLOWED TO WIN SO WHY IS SOME PEOPLE GETTING THROUGH TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT [person x] FOR EXAMPLE YOU MAKES IT OUT SHE IS SO FUNNY SO AS THE PRESENTERS WILL LAUGH AND SAY JUNE WE LOVE TO HEAR FROM [person x] GET RID OF HER SHE HAS WON ENOUGH ALONG WITH [person y] SHE USED TO SAY [person y] WAS HER NAME SHE HAS KNOW STATED HER NAME AS [person y with name slightly altered] I WONDER WHY ………. IF ONLY THEY WOULD WRITE AND TELL YOU WHEN YOU CAN PLAY AGAIN AS THEY WHERE NOT LONG AND WRITTING TO STOP PEOPLE PLAYING I HAVE SENT THE LETTER IN TO WATCHDOG AND EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD DO THE SAME AS THEY ARE BANNING PEOPLE AND LETTING OTHERS THROUGH TIME AND TIME AGAIN I HAVE BEEN BANNED FOR A MONTH KNOW WITH NO LETTER WHEN I CAN START PLAYING HAS ANY ONE HAD A LETTER WHEN THEY CAN START PLAYING AGAIN? PLEASE LET ME KNOW

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  76. Whatever you say about [person x] _ I think she probably phones so you cannot knock people who pay for the prizes…same with [person y] – weird laugh but seems an OK guy and spends a fortune on calls. Its just a form of gambling for him. What is wrong is that [people] and lots of others are abusing the web entry system but are not banned. They are taking the p*** out of Qc and it is not fair on those of us that just played every now and then .. they have forced Qc to send out banning letter by tehir greediness and like all selfish people its always others that end up losing out. It was greed that made quiztv and others change their rules – we will end up not being able to play anything and I was happy with my odd £50 a week – there was enough for everyone – I’m really getting fed up talking about it and I dont really blame qc cos they had to do something after all they are there to make a profit. I blame the spoilsports and greedy people in this world and you know who you are.

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  77. Admin moderation: I received an email from somebody who says that they are known as tracyt on another forum but that they did not post this comment. I was asked if I could delete the comment. I won’t do that, but please bear in mind that this may not have been written by who you think.doctorvee

    jane and lilo, you sound very sad and bitter. making allegations against people of cheating…you don’t know them or how they are playing the game. you got banned for what quizcall deemed cheating, i don’t think they would do that without some proof. and it is interesting that such a large number of banned players were all regulars on a particular quiz help forum…let it go and move on. crikey stop watching if you can’t even legally play…what a waste of a life. lol

  78. I’ve just come across this and am amazed that people can be so vicious to others You all claim to be so nice and sweet and innocent but think nothing of being nasty to others through envy. Personnaly I have never watched or entered any quiz shows on tv as I thought they were all a con and if they attract such nasty people I def won’t be watching any

  79. You are right peeps – although I have stood up for those people who quite rightly are allowed to spend their money as they like and win as often as they like I have allowed my frustration to get the better of me regarding those others. I wasnt a member of a forum but have found several while trying to find out if the same thing had happened to anyone else. If you are right tracyt that most people are from the same forum then it looks like they were all doing something the same that counted as cheating. It does make me even more mystified why I have got banned…I havent got much and the £30 or £50 now and again made a big difference to me. When I got my letter I thought they were targeting all web entrants which would be wrong but then I heard them call [person x] and some of those others web entrants and they win thousands and get through more times in a day than I did in a month…I read a conversation on a mums forum about how they were ‘slamming’ [quote] entries through and winning thousands why havent they been banned. Please understand that all I want is answers. Can the others here that have been banned confirm they were all part of a forum or has anyone else been individually targeted ? If QC would just respond to me and say exactly what they think I did I would be satisfied. As you all seem more up-to-date on this than me can anyone explain how the same person can get through several times and so close together that there isnt even time to redial without abusing the system in some way. [person y] has spent £1000s on phone calls and knows the score but even he cant do this. Im so fed up of talking about it now – if anyone from QC reads this, please put me out my misery and let me know exactly what Im supposed to have done…

    This comment has been edited by me because it mentioned specific people who aren’t here to defend themselvesdoctorvee

  80. I am only a member of loquax forums but I’ve read posts there and elsewhere about people saying they have won on the web so its quite easy to see who are web entrants.Why would people be banned for being a regular on a forum? Do they think forums are a means of cheating?
    Its understandable that we are angry about being banned because we do not know what we have done wrong.

  81. What a load of moaners and whingers some of you are on here, you that have been banned have been so because you were CHEATING, do you not understand that, if you break the rules you cannot complain when you get found out, but it seems ok for you to have a go at people that continue to win, by whatever means, web or phone. this is down to jealously, and for those that are still watching it after being banned, well, you really are a sad lot, and no I do not do any of the tv comps as my money is better spent

  82. Just found this thread via google.I was banned from quizcall in January and I never used web entry.I called in lots of times and have won about £1000.I did ask them what the reasons where but never got a reply.My opinion is there is a serious problem with their system.
    Recently they have messed about with the clocks and dragged games on for hours on end.The word up games have stupid answers and I wouldnt put it past them to have fake jackpot winners either.
    Surely they are breaking rules by using these tactics.

  83. gary if you watch any of them regularly you can tell who is web entrant and who is calling also you only have to try to ring to know how difficult it is to get through once let alone multiple times. tracyt, it makes sense if loads were banned from a forum – the very reason they are there is because they are interested in playing quizzes. Without knowing who is banned from elsewhere there is no comparison. I have tries QC but gave up beacuase i never had one callback and I cant afford to phone lots but I like the other channels especially quiznation and quizmania. If those others are cheating they will get banning letters so steer your efforts elsewhere you are only letting them intrude on your life….

  84. WARNING

    I think that this thread is becoming a bit out of hand. I am beginning to suspect that some people are using multiple identities. I also received an email today from somebody else who thinks that they have been impersonated. This refers to the comment made by somebody calling themselves tracyt, and I have edited that comment to reflect this.

    I just want to make some things clear, in case some people don’t understand how the comment system works. You are required to enter a ‘Name’ — this can be a nickname or just something you’ve made up. All that I ask is that you stick to the same name every time you post so that everybody knows who they are talking to. This should go without saying, but please don’t pretend that you’re somebody else.

    You are also required to enter an email address, but this is just to stop spammers and it can be a fake email address. I won’t reveal anybody’s email address without their permission — I respect your privacy.

    You should only fill in the ‘URI’ box if you have a website that you want to link to.

    I am providing a public forum for you all, and I am happy to do that. Please do not abuse it. If I think that people are continuing to use multiple identities then I will close this thread.

    Thanks.

  85. WHAT NASTY EVIL ROTTEN PEOPLE SOME OF YOU ARE! YOU GOT CAUGHT CHEATING AND NOW YOU TRY TO BLAME OTHERS. TAKE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND STOP MAKING OUT YOU NEVER DID ANY WRONG.

  86. Thats just it effaflump – I’m sure some people were cheating but I only entered now and then and phoned and did a few web entries. I have been through the T & Cs with a fine tooth comb and I can find no rules I have broken. I asked QC to explain and asked for what information they have on me under the data protection act but they wont answer even though that is illegal, they are refusing SD letters. If I could think of a single reason however remote that I got letter I wouldn’t bother trying for an explanation. QC should make it clear exaclty why each person is banned not hide behind a use of technology clause that doesnt make any sense – to me anyway. Im not blaming anyone for my ban what I said was that people being greedy have forced QC to take action and they havent done it in a consistent way….

  87. JANE IF THEY WANTED TO BAN GREEDY PEOPLE THEN THEY WOULD USE A CAPPED AMOUNT OF WINS LIKE OTHER CHANNELS. OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE HERE HAVE THINGS TO HIDE SO WONT ADMIT TO BEING THE CHEATS. ITS THEM WHO HAVE SPOILED IT FOR THEMSELVES NOBODY ELSE GOT THEM BANNED! IS NOT THAT THE ACTUAL FACTS?

  88. Jane (although I doubt that is your real name as I would assume you are too gutless to say who you really are) you are eaten up with jealousy now you can’t enter, move on and get a life and stop your ranting and raving, it can’t be good for your health.

  89. Theres more ranting and raving from you Samuel and you claim not to be interested. I still play and win plenty on the other channels so dont miss QC I just dont like being accused of something I am sure I havent done. If QC give me an answer and explain what rule I have broken I will happily hold my hands up.

  90. I have played on quizcall for weeks now and could not tell you who was a web entrant or phone caller. The amount of people that play have the name carolyn karen mel and lisa etc does not mean its the same person my names mary but there are dozens of marys playing.

  91. SO ALL YOU WANT IS THEM TO EXPLAIN? WHY THEN TURN BITTER BY SLAGGING OTHERS? PEOPLE YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW, OR ARE YOU PSYCHIC?

  92. Jane I think you are being very reasonable, you are asking for an explanation for the ban and not getting one – Please peeps can you not understand – Jane is only asking for the reason why she is being called a cheat and I would ask the same if I had received the same letter, especially if I was not a cheat. I dont believe jealousy comes into it – just confusion. If QC are totally in the right for banning people then there should be no problem whatsoever in explaining why.

  93. quizcall is a load of cr*p at least zorro used a mask to rob you…and does any one know the john anwser

  94. I just wanna say how upset I was, am, and will be for even THINKING about calling Quizmania on itv! I don’t know why i even thought about doing it! What I did manage to do though, was make a huge bill of £246 for making 17 calls ! Even though i will manage to somehow pay it all back, it goes to show how stupid I was! I even made 5 calls downstairs on my BT landline and I didn’t get through!!My mum and dad will check the bill and god knows how much of a soar ear Im gonnna have! I just wish this advice could have been available to me before hand!!!! If anybody reads this- PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU’RE LETTING YOURSELF IN FOR

  95. Good stuff this. I just went and read through the T&C’s of the main quiz channels.
    Quizmania doesnt allow form fillers or speed dial and they also have a limit of 10k winnings.
    Quizcall, on the other hand is a bit sketchy and it looks like they can exclude people for whatever reason they can think up.With terms like that, I think I would avoid them like the plague.

  96. ADMIN NOTICE

    I have received another email from somebody else who says they are being impersonated.

    I was asked to close the thread. I won’t do that. Instead, in the interests of transparent and open debate, I will list the ‘names’ of people who have the same IP address and are therefore may actually be the same person (although it may be different people using the same computer, or it could be a coincidence).

    • neil (comment # 104)
    • Annie (103)
    • gary (85)
    • lilo (83)
    • mary / MARY (104)
    • bloke (76)
    • kate (72)
    • Gav (66)

    gary, lilo, mary / MARY, bloke and kate also gave the same email address. All of the others in that list provided separate email addresses.

    The following both had the same IP address.

    • E’FFAFLUMP
    • tracyt

    This directly relates to the email I received yesterday.

    Isn’t it strange that all this happened when somebody linked to this post from a message board?

    I will be closing the comments to this thread. I will also be editing out some names because there is no way I can tell who is telling the truth and who isn’t, and certain people have shown that they are not trustworthy enough to be allowed to say things about other people who are not here to defend themselves. This is the first time I have ever had to do this. In over three years of blogging and 2000 comments on this site alone I have never had such trouble.

    There is clearly some underhand debating going on. People are clearly using this space to try and further their side in some kind of long-running debate. You have come here to try and make others look guilty. Well it did nobody any favours — it certainly didn’t exactly make you look squeaky clean.

    You can take your squabbles elsewhere; there seem to be enough private forums for you to go to. It is a shame you had to ruin the thread because there was the possibility for people to post interesting and relevant comments.

    As for my final view on quiz channels, there are clearly some dodgy goings-on with all of these channels. The prerogative is to make money and they will probably sometimes use underhand tactics to try and screw viewers out of their money (e.g. Quiz Call and their start–stop–start–stop clock). My problem is that they are actually technically against Ofcom regulations, yet nothing seems to be done about it. These phone-in competitions are supposed to involve an element of skill, though pure luck is all you need for most of these. One of the comments above said that it is just a form of gambling — how true. Indeed, good luck to you if you enter because your chances of making money out of these channels (especially since they set such obscure puzzles) are very slim indeed.

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