Those things again

Nosemonkey on those things.

…this is one of the most intrusive and unpleasantly fascistic laws this country has yet seen…

Talk about losing all sense of proportion (incidentally, did I mention fox hunting part two?). Anyway, here is a list of famously fascistic countries:

  • Belgium
  • Egypt
  • Estonia
  • Germany
  • Greece
  • Luxembourg
  • Poland
  • Portugal
  • Spain

They all have compulsory ID cards, according to Wikipedia at least. And that’s without even going into the countries which have ID cards which aren’t compulsory (cheese-eating / liberal France and Sweden amongst them) – which they wouldn’t be in the UK according to two articles on BBC News Online.

Former home secretary David Blunkett said he wanted Parliament in about 2011 or 2012 to consider whether to make it compulsory to own, but not carry, ID cards.

To make them compulsory, the government would have to: Publish a report explaining its reasons and how it would work and put it to a vote in both Houses of Parliament.

Ministers say they do not expect compulsion until 80% of people have the cards anyway – although this is not spelled out in the bill.

Nosemonkey’s assertion that people would be forced to pay eighty-five quid if they wanted an ID card is also untrue – that figure is a combined fee for an ID card with a passport – and passports cost £42 anyway. ID cards on their own would cost “about £35”, £10 for those on low incomes, and zero for under-16s and over-75s.

I’d like to point out that I am not in favour of ID cards, but I have found many of the anti arguments quite unconvincing and I feel that that a lot of people on the anti side are simply lying.

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