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		<title>Scottish Unionist calls it a day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was sorry to read that Scottish Unionist has decided to stop updating his blog. I know from email correspondence that he has, from time to time, thought about the future of his blog. Now he appears to have decided to call it a day for good. What a great shame that is. Scottish Unionist [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sorry to read that <a href="http://www.scottishunionist.com/2009/10/this-is-ex-blog.html">Scottish Unionist has decided to stop updating his blog</a>.</p>
<p>I know from email correspondence that he has, from time to time, thought about the future of his blog. Now he appears to have decided to call it a day for good.</p>
<p>What a great shame that is. Scottish Unionist did a fine job of exposing the rotten nature of nationalism. His eviscerations of the borderline illiterate Cybernats who pollute the Scottish blogosphere were excellent.</p>
<p>This may have led to the blog been a bit one-note and too negative. Plus, the knuckle-dragging nature of Cybernats is somewhat self-evident. But the case cannot be made too often.</p>
<p>The personal experience that Scottish Unionist has gone through while facing up to the aggressive nationalists has been truly shocking in some cases. It spoke volumes of Scottish Unionist as a person that he always conducted his debates with dignity, treating his opponents with respect &#8212; much more than a Cybernat could ever achieve.</p>
<p>I echo <a href="http://www.snptacticalvoting.com/2009/10/scottish-unionist-no-more.html">the sentiments of Jeff</a>. I doubt that the Cybernats really need to be tackled &#8212; they discredit their ideology enough with their own words.</p>
<p>But Scottish Unionist was more or less the only person who frequently visited the constitutional issue, at a time when we could be facing a fundamental referendum in the next couple of years. Perhaps the rest of us should step up to the plate.</p>
<p>I was delighted when Scottish Unionist asked if I would write a guest piece for his blog earlier this year. You can still read my piece about <a href="http://www.scottishunionist.com/2009/07/guest-post-scotland-in-federal-britain.html">a vision of a federalism in the UK</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t read my previous post explaining what I&#8217;m trying to do here, feel free to take a look. In this post I will set out the thinking behind my views on Scottish independence. For what it&#8217;s worth, I think within a couple of decades the idea of the independent nation state will almost [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='series_toc'><h3>Common ground on Scotland's future</h3><p>A series of posts</p><ol><li><a href='http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/08/finding-the-common-ground/' title='Finding the common ground'>Finding the common ground</a></li><li>My view on Scotland&#8217;s constitutional future</li></ol></div><p> <p>If you haven&#8217;t read my previous post explaining what I&#8217;m trying to do here, <a href="http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/08/finding-the-common-ground/">feel free to take a look</a>.</p>
<p>In this post I will set out the thinking behind my views on Scottish independence.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I think within a couple of decades the idea of the independent nation state will almost be completely alien. In a lot of ways, it already is. In an increasingly globalised world, countries are increasingly defined not in terms of their own peculiar characteristics but in terms of their relationships with other countries.</p>
<p>For instance, we think of countries as being members of transnational organisations. Countries are usually members of organisations such as the EU, Nato, the UN, the Commonwealth, any number of free trade blocs, special relationships&#8230; I could go on.</p>
<p>I have never heard it suggested that the SNP, or supporters of independence as a whole, would wish to do away with Scotland&#8217;s membership and / or use of such transnational institutions and agreements (though I&#8217;m aware that the SNP is opposed to membership of Nato &#8212; just making the point that it&#8217;s not the principle of such institutions that the SNP objects to). Nor should they. But unquestionably each of these in some way limits the independence of any country that signs up to it.</p>
<p>So what makes these institutions good (or at least tolerable) while Westminster is so bad? What I struggle to understand about the independence supporter&#8217;s position is why there is seemingly no part for Westminster to play in any plans for Scotland&#8217;s future.</p>
<p>To bring us back on to common ground, I should point out that my views are almost certainly driven by the same motivations that drive the feelings behind support for independence. Notably this would be the principle of subsidiarity, which means that decisions should be taken at as local a level as feasibly possible. As such, I would support an extension of the Scottish Parliament&#8217;s powers in many areas.</p>
<p>But it seems to me unreal to believe that there can be no role for Westminster; that there should be no reserved matters. One thing that is pretty neat about the UK is that most of it is made up of Great Britain, a relatively conveniently-sized island. It is certainly not too big to be adequately governed. It would seem quite silly not to take advantage of this geographical reality.</p>
<p>There are surely areas where the economies of scale trump subsidiarity. Foreign policy and defence might be one area, although I understand that many supporters of independence would find this difficult to swallow after the Iraq War (though a lot of people in the rest of the UK find the Iraq War difficult to swallow as well.)</p>
<p>National disasters could be another area. For instance, the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak which affected both Scotland and England with Cumbria, right on the border, especially hit hard. In such a crisis situation, if the government had to place certain restrictions, or even emergency legislation had to be passed, it would be more efficient (and less costly) for there to be just one government involved rather than have to set up meetings so that you could get multiple governments to agree to a solution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that it would be impossible for multiple governments to agree. But it would surely be efficient enough to make it worthwhile for there to be a UK-wide system in place. And having two governments involved would only double the chances of there being a cock-up, there is the danger that there will be crossed wires and so forth.</p>
<p>Of course, we are in a bit of a crisis at the moment. Alex Salmond has made much about what an independent Scotland maybe might have possibly been able to achieve. This is mostly fantasy talk though, because we have no way of knowing how an independent Scotland would have coped (meanwhile one of an independent Scotland&#8217;s blueprints, Iceland, is facing quite acute difficulty at the moment &#8212; sorry for straying off the fluffy consensus-seeking territory there!). I suspect Salmond is only using the crisis to advocate independence, but as leader of the SNP that&#8217;s his job.</p>
<p>But there has been plenty of hand-wringing among commentators about how difficult it has been to get world leaders to agree on the best way to tackle this global crisis. What if some kind of major crisis hit the former members of the UK and the leaders got into a stalemate? You can say we have that in this globalised world anyway and there&#8217;s nothing we can do about it. But creating even more failure points is hardly a constructive way to approach this.</p>
<p>So that is, in brief, the thinking behind my view on the constitution &#8212; how I see powers being distributed between Westminster and Holyrood. I&#8217;m delighted to see that <a href="http://www.adopteddomain.com/blog/2008/10/8/in-the-search-for-common-ground.html">Adopted Domain has already written his take on this</a>, and I think our viewpoints are quite similar. A good start!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the wake of Kezia Dugdale&#8217;s retirement from blogging, and having noted the often poisonous atmosphere that pervades some of the darkest corners of the Scottish blogosphere, I think now is a good time for me to come out with an idea that has been floating around in my head for the past few months. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='series_toc'><h3>Common ground on Scotland's future</h3><p>A series of posts</p><ol><li>Finding the common ground</li><li><a href='http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/09/my-view-on-scotlands-constitutional-future/' title='My view on Scotland&#8217;s constitutional future'>My view on Scotland&#8217;s constitutional future</a></li></ol></div><p> <p>In the wake of <a href="http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/08/what-kezia-dugdales-retirement-says-about-blogging/">Kezia Dugdale&#8217;s retirement from blogging</a>, and having noted the often poisonous atmosphere that pervades some of the darkest corners of the Scottish blogosphere, I think now is a good time for me to come out with an idea that has been floating around in my head for the past few months.</p>
<p>This is an attempt to find the common ground in the constitutional viewpoints of SNP supporters and those of other persuasions. It recently struck me that we all have much more in common than we perhaps imagine.</p>
<p>The eureka moment came after I had a discussion in the pub with a card-carrying SNP member and full-on nationalist. We both sought to gain a good understanding of each other&#8217;s views and as the conversation went on we found that we had a lot more in common than we felt at first glance.</p>
<p>I set out my federalist position, using the opportunity to point out that the SNP, too, shares my view that having different powers at different levels of government can be a desirable thing. For instance, it is well-known that the SNP would wish for an independent Scotland to be a member of the European Union.</p>
<p>Furthermore, under current SNP policy, a very important policy instrument would never be controlled by Scotland. The SNP recognises that Scotland is not an optimal currency area, thanks to the large amount of trade Scotland does with the rest of the UK and the rest of the EU. Most likely, an SNP-designed independent Scotland would continue to use sterling in the short-to-medium term while adopting the euro in the longer term future. This means that monetary policy would be set either in London or in Frankfurt, not Edinburgh.</p>
<p>Already we see that the independence issue is not so black-and-white as some of the debates might lead you to believe. The SNP do not support full independence. I am sure that there are some people on the fringes who do, but they are thin on the ground and are certainly not represented in mainstream politics.</p>
<p>That means that there is not actually a great deal that separates the SNP from the &#8216;unionist&#8217; parties. All of the major parties believe a similar thing. Admittedly they do so to varying degrees. At one end we have the Labour and Conservative position of maybe considering a greater degree of fiscal federalism. At the other, we have the likes of the Greens who want more powers for local government in addition to the Scottish Parliament. And the Lib Dems have long supported federalist solutions.</p>
<p>From my perspective, this is actually pretty damn close to being a consensus in Scottish politics. The introduction of a Scottish Parliament was almost seen as a given in 1997, but even then the Conservatives had a good bash at running a &#8216;no&#8217; campaign. Were there to be a referendum on having increased fiscal powers for the Scottish Parliament a few years down the line, surely any &#8216;no&#8217; campaign would be a pathetic laughing stock. Certainly, anyone calling for the abolition of the Scottish Parliament would be totally ignored.</p>
<p>It seems to me that most people now have very similar viewpoints on Scotland&#8217;s near-future constitutional direction. The differences are almost a matter of semantics, or at least of niggly details.</p>
<p>That was the conclusion I came to in the pub during this discussion. My nationalist sparring partner, if I understood him correctly, was more or less saying that once Scotland had fiscal powers it was more-or-less independent enough anyway. He was telling me, as a Lib Dem sympathiser, that given this huge amount of common ground the Lib Dems ought to be working with the SNP to try and advance these ideas.</p>
<p>In May 2007 <a href="http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/05/07/the-lib-dems-just-cant-win/">I understood and supported the Lib Dems&#8217; decision</a> not to go into coalition with the SNP. There was a damaging perception that the Lib Dems would just get into bed with anyone so it was a good idea to try and put the lid on that. The flip-side, though, is that the Lib Dems are beginning to like an appendage of the Labour Party &#8212; and this isn&#8217;t the time to be that.</p>
<p>Worse still, particularly given the large amounts of common ground between the SNP and the Lib Dems on a variety of different issues, the Lib Dems are beginning to look like the sulky party. I am starting to think it would be much more constructive for the Lib Dems to start working with the SNP. Of course, given the relative success of the SNP minority administration so far, it wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if the SNP just thumbed their nose at any Lib Dem approach.</p>
<p>All-round, it is beginning to look like a huge missed opportunity. That underlines why I think we need to start focusing on the common ground rather than the minor differences and the petty squabbles.</p>
<p>Scotland sorely needs a proper national conversation right now. Unfortunately, the way things have worked out, we are having <a href="http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/a-national-conversation">two</a> <a href="http://www.commissiononscottishdevolution.org.uk/">conversations</a> in tandem and the risk is that everyone is just preaching to the converted without actually taking in what &#8216;the others&#8217; are saying. It&#8217;s not very constructive.</p>
<p>I think if everyone ditched the political posturing and the party rhetoric, the politicians and the people would probably find a lot to agree with. Am I right, or do you think I&#8217;m being a bit wide-eyed and naive? I want to try and find out.</p>
<p>Here is what I propose. As a starting point, I am going to ask if everyone believes that different powers should be held at different levels. This could be Scotland as part of the EU, Scotland as part of the UK and the EU, or whatever other permutations you care to come up with. I have already noted that I think almost everyone agrees with the principle of this. Am I wrong?</p>
<p>Once we get past the first hurdle, I want to understand why people believe that certain powers should be held by certain institutions. What powers should the Scottish Parliament have? In which areas would it be acceptable for Westminster to retain control? What would be the ideal role of the EU? If you think Westminster should be taken out of the equation completely, what is the reasoning behind that? I don&#8217;t necessarily want this to be a game of &#8216;fantasy constitution&#8217;. I&#8217;m only interested in realistic ideas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post what I think the answers to these questions are within the next day. I hope some other bloggers join in so that we can see where we all agree and get a proper handle on where the disagreements come from.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m surprised that an SNP candidate has pulled this old one out of the hat again. But it does amaze me that people constantly believe the argument without seeing the blatant inconsistency. Julie Hepburn: David Mundell&#8217;s comment sent shivers down my spine&#8230; Even if they don&#8217;t have a single Tory MP elected [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m surprised that an SNP candidate has pulled this old one out of the hat again. But it does amaze me that people constantly believe the argument without seeing the blatant inconsistency.</p>
<p><a href="http://bidforfreedom.blogspot.com/2008/10/tories-rule-not-ok.html">Julie Hepburn</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>David Mundell&#8217;s comment sent shivers down my spine&#8230; Even if they don&#8217;t have a single Tory MP elected in Scotland&#8230; they still think they have the right to impose policies upon the people of Scotland that they have rejected at the polls.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but the only problem with this is that they <em>do</em> have the right to do that. A UK General Election is just that &#8212; a general election for the whole of the UK, whether the SNP likes it or not. That means the seats are totted up for the whole of the UK and whoever has the most seats forms the government. A pretty simple concept.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same concept that applies in elections to the Scottish Parliament. Seats are totted up for the whole of Scotland and whoever is in the best position to form an administration does so.</p>
<p>While the SNP are always quick to jump up and down to point out the Conservatives&#8217; alleged unpopularity in Scotland (<a href="http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/08/03/the-conservative-dimension/">which isn&#8217;t really true</a>, but I&#8217;ll let that slide for now), they are always a great deal more reticent about the geographical differences that occur within Scotland as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alba.org.uk/images/2007sge.gif"><img src="http://doctorvee.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2007-sco-parl-constituency.gif" alt="2007 constituency results" title="2007-sco-parl-constituency" /></a> <a href="http://www.alba.org.uk/images/2007reg.gif"><img src="http://doctorvee.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/2007-sco-parl-regional.gif" alt="2007 regional vote results" title="2007-sco-parl-regional" /></a><br />
<i>Images stolen from the <a href="http://www.alba.org.uk/">Scottish Politics</a> website</i></p>
<p>The above maps show the results of the 2007 Scottish Parliament election. On the left is the constituency result, while the map on the right shows how the regional votes were cast in each constituency.</p>
<p>It is pretty clear that there is a distinct difference in voting patterns between different parts of Scotland. Broadly speaking, the further north and the deeper into rural areas you go, the more likely the SNP are to win. This is especially emphasised in the case of the regional vote where voters are more likely to vote for the party they really support rather than tactically voting. Meanwhile, the central belt still heavily voted for Labour, particularly in the west.</p>
<p>Does this mean that the SNP is just a bunch of northerners foisting unwanted policies which have been rejected by voters in the lowlands? I don&#8217;t think so. But Julie Hepburn&#8217;s logic, all too prevalent among nationalists, would conclude this if only it was not so hypocritical.</p>
<p>As I said, the Scottish Parliamentary election is a Scotland-wide election and whoever gets a plurality of seats across the whole of Scotland wins. So it was right that the SNP ended up forming the Scottish Government. The SNP will quite cheerfully accept their right to govern the whole of Scotland.</p>
<p>By the same token, if the Conservatives win the most seats in the next UK General Election, they will be well within their rights to form the government for the whole of the UK. That would include Scotland, no matter how much foot-stamping the nats do. Neither case sends a shiver down my spine.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the SNP often tries to make out that it <a href="http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/08/27/the-perils-of-being-scotlands-party/">speaks for the whole of Scotland</a>. <em>That</em> sends a shiver down my spine.</p>
<p>I am not trying to say, as the nationalist logic goes, that the central belt and the south should pursue independence because of these geographical differences. Such differences between different parts of any area will inevitably form. Look at any election map for any country, no matter how large or small, and you will doubtless see certain trends. These could be along urban / rural lines, differences between coastal and inland areas, north / south divides, east / west divides, or whatever.</p>
<p>Is this an ideal situation? Far from it. Adopting a federalist structure can go a long way to mitigating these effects and that is part of the reason why I am a federalist.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the SNP is not a federalist party. You can see this in their strange &#8220;local&#8221; income tax policy which could hardly be less local. Despite their rhetoric about bringing government closer to the people, the SNP is a centralist party. It wants to take powers away from other levels of government and concentrate them all in Holyrood.</p>
<p>The &#8220;problem&#8221; of having a party foisting unwanted policies in areas where those policies were rejected would hardly be solved by the SNP.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it looks as though the SNP and the Greens have come to some sort of deal, something just short of a proper coalition. But I&#8217;m with Shuggy &#8212; I don&#8217;t really understand what&#8217;s in it for them. Obviously it can give the SNP two extra votes in the Scottish Parliament. But it is only [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it looks as though the SNP and the Greens have come to some sort of deal, something just short of a proper coalition. But <a href="http://modies.blogspot.com/2007/05/coalition-talks.html">I&#8217;m with Shuggy</a> &#8212; I don&#8217;t really understand what&#8217;s in it for them.</p>
<p>Obviously it can give the SNP two extra votes in the Scottish Parliament. But it is only two votes, and still far short of a majority. An SNP&#8211;Green coalition is not a good deal stronger than an SNP minority administration.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I am really scratching my head as to why the Greens want to get involved. When coalition talks started, there was a joke (or was it a joke? Was it real?) that the Greens had two conditions. Those conditions were no more nuclear and fewer carbon emissions &#8212; which are both already SNP policies anyway.</p>
<p>If the Greens wanted to maximise their influence (as you would assume they would), you would expect them to at least ask for something a bit more radical, like no second Forth Road Bridge. Obviously no deal would be made in those circumstances because it would make both the SNP about as electorally popular as Hitler, particularly in Fife. But it would be a good starting point for the Greens.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve not heard anything about demands made by the Greens, besides a few &#8220;disagreements about transport policies&#8221;, which is a bit vague. It sounds like the Greens are giving up a lot for the sake of not a lot of power (because it would still be a minority administration).</p>
<p>I guess both the Greens and the SNP are hoping that the Lib Dems will come to the table. Their original stance was principled, but the fact that they are refusing to even talk about it is beginning to make them look petulant.</p>
<p>After all, as has been pointed out by many people, any referendum on independence would probably be lost. And a multi-question referendum would give the Lib Dems the perfect opportunity to campaign for more fiscal federalism in Scotland. Even though these issues are technically reserved matters, the debate that would be initiated could also open to door to a campaign to resolve the West Lothian Question via a federal solution in Westminster.</p>
<p>Moreover, there is the fact that the SNP and the Lib Dems are so damn similar, apart from the issue of independence. Would it not, for instance, be a good opportunity to implement a form of Local Income Tax, which both parties favour over the current system?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, those rumours that the Lib Dems&#8217; refusal to talk is really being dictated by Gordon Brown don&#8217;t go away. I don&#8217;t know how true it is. But the very idea makes me quite uncomfortable, and for as long as the Lib Dems refuse even to talk about it, it begins to look true.</p>
<p>Back to the SNP, and <a href="http://holyroodchronicles.blogspot.com/2007/05/ministerial-in-tray.html">Holyrood Watcher has noted how</a> the SNP now face the harsh realities that come with actually being in power. Compromises to be made, and the fact that there are scarce resources (I sense this is a particular weak point for the SNP!).</p>
<p>The one solid Green demand &#8212; to go ahead with Edinburgh&#8217;s tram scheme &#8212; is uncomfortable for the SNP to take on board. And the SNP appear to be learning that increasing spending in one area involves opportunity costs, ie. decreasing spending in another area. Doh! Why didn&#8217;t they think of that before?</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Just as I finished writing this post, I saw <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/election07/scotland/2007/05/big_deal.html">this from Brian Taylor</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>So what is this deal? The SNP and the Greens agree that &#8211; they won&#8217;t build any new nuclear power stations; they&#8217;ll introduce a law to cut climate-change pollution year on year (instead of vague longer-term targets); and they&#8217;ll &#8220;work to extend the responsibilities of the Scottish Parliament.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! In other words, no nuclear and fewer carbon emissions. ie. the Greens have extracted bugger all from the SNP. Oh well. And that wording, &#8220;work to extend the responsibilities of the Scottish Parliament&#8221; &#8212; <del>very weak, don&#8217;t you think?</del> The Lib Dems would like to do that as well. It looks to me like this the plan &#8212; to bring the Lib Dems on board.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Having read <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/11_05_07_agreement.pdf">the actual agreement</a> (PDF), it is actually a bit stronger than that. It mentions &#8216;independence&#8217; and contains a strong hint that a referendum is still on the cards.</p>
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