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		<title>By: Scotland&#8217;s well-behaved nationalists &#171; doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1349826</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotland&#8217;s well-behaved nationalists &#171; doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thing that really stuck me about the leaflets from Ukip and the BNP for the recent European Parliamentary election was the fact that they were stuffed full of cheesy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1279458</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bert, I don&#039;t think anyone is of the opinion that the EU is perfect. In fact, it has many flaws. But that is not a reason to leave. Westminster isn&#039;t perfect either. Nor is Holyrood. I highly doubt there is any governance system in the world which is perfect.

In fact, I could compose a list as long as my arm of flaws in the way the UK is governed. Is that a reason to leave the UK? No, it&#039;s a reason to reform.

Do you have a citation for the &quot;report&quot; that Westminster only has control of 30% of laws. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=2230&quot;&gt;This is an article&lt;/a&gt; which you may find interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bert, I don&#8217;t think anyone is of the opinion that the EU is perfect. In fact, it has many flaws. But that is not a reason to leave. Westminster isn&#8217;t perfect either. Nor is Holyrood. I highly doubt there is any governance system in the world which is perfect.</p>
<p>In fact, I could compose a list as long as my arm of flaws in the way the UK is governed. Is that a reason to leave the UK? No, it&#8217;s a reason to reform.</p>
<p>Do you have a citation for the &#8220;report&#8221; that Westminster only has control of 30% of laws. <a href="http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=2230">This is an article</a> which you may find interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: bert catt</title>
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		<dc:creator>bert catt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UKIP, for all their faults are the only party wanting out of the EEC.  Now when we had a referendum on this subject, we were told the (then) &#039;Common Market&#039; was simply a trading organisation, and had no plans to be any more than that. The only person who I remember predicting the eventual outcome of the &#039;Common Market&#039; was Lord Stansgate, Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, or plain Tony Benn.  Who was portrayed as a swivel eyed manic by most!

If the EEC is such a good idea why are the accounts not signed off, or haven&#039;t been for years. Why does the UK pay the second largest amount in, after Germany?  France has a population on a par with the UK, and for many years a larger economy. They get most out!  Also it is now reported that Westminster only has control of 30% of laws, and rubber stamps the rest from the EEC.

I think we were &#039;conned&#039; on the referendum, and denied a further referendum with the Lisbon &#039;Treaty&#039;. Which is all but the failed constitution.  There are many, many problems around the EEC, including the UK was one of the only countries to accept labour from Eastern Europe, whereas the rest put barriers in the way.

If we are to stay in the EEC, we should have a level playing field, able to vote on the President, have more control over laws passed in Europe.  I am of the opinion this will not happen, so maybe it&#039;s best we leave.  Thinking this way, leaves me in a quandary.  I can not vote for any major party, they all want to stay in. Do I not vote? Or vote UKIP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UKIP, for all their faults are the only party wanting out of the EEC.  Now when we had a referendum on this subject, we were told the (then) &#8216;Common Market&#8217; was simply a trading organisation, and had no plans to be any more than that. The only person who I remember predicting the eventual outcome of the &#8216;Common Market&#8217; was Lord Stansgate, Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, or plain Tony Benn.  Who was portrayed as a swivel eyed manic by most!</p>
<p>If the EEC is such a good idea why are the accounts not signed off, or haven&#8217;t been for years. Why does the UK pay the second largest amount in, after Germany?  France has a population on a par with the UK, and for many years a larger economy. They get most out!  Also it is now reported that Westminster only has control of 30% of laws, and rubber stamps the rest from the EEC.</p>
<p>I think we were &#8216;conned&#8217; on the referendum, and denied a further referendum with the Lisbon &#8216;Treaty&#8217;. Which is all but the failed constitution.  There are many, many problems around the EEC, including the UK was one of the only countries to accept labour from Eastern Europe, whereas the rest put barriers in the way.</p>
<p>If we are to stay in the EEC, we should have a level playing field, able to vote on the President, have more control over laws passed in Europe.  I am of the opinion this will not happen, so maybe it&#8217;s best we leave.  Thinking this way, leaves me in a quandary.  I can not vote for any major party, they all want to stay in. Do I not vote? Or vote UKIP?</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1249210</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnnyb, I&#039;m not sure what your point about the USA is. Last time I checked it was the most prosperous country on earth.

I don&#039;t notice much in the way of problems as a result of multiculturalism, and those that do exist are thanks to a tiny minority of small-minded nationalist bigots. Thankfully most people are not small-minded nationalist bigots, and we get along fine. Indeed, it enriches our lives.

After all, the British nation is fundamentally based on a mixture of different cultures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnnyb, I&#8217;m not sure what your point about the USA is. Last time I checked it was the most prosperous country on earth.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t notice much in the way of problems as a result of multiculturalism, and those that do exist are thanks to a tiny minority of small-minded nationalist bigots. Thankfully most people are not small-minded nationalist bigots, and we get along fine. Indeed, it enriches our lives.</p>
<p>After all, the British nation is fundamentally based on a mixture of different cultures.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnnyb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnnyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell is wrong with Nationalism?  Multiculturalism has been a disaster.  Look at the United States and ask yourself if you really want that?   once proud republic has been reduced to tribalism as a result of multiculturalism.

Guess what... Race is real.  It does not go away ever.  Racial differences cause discord is a society.  You people call this discord racism, but really there is no such thing as racism only tribalism.  You can try to ignore this fact if you want, but that does not mean that that these immagrants that you are importing into you land will ignore their tribal orgins.  They will all think as a tribe and look out for their tribal interests, to hell with everyone else or abstract ideas of universal equality under the law.  They will be out for their tribe against your tribe.

Enoch Powell predicted this would happen, and it has.  Now you have to deal with the problems that anti-racism has created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell is wrong with Nationalism?  Multiculturalism has been a disaster.  Look at the United States and ask yourself if you really want that?   once proud republic has been reduced to tribalism as a result of multiculturalism.</p>
<p>Guess what&#8230; Race is real.  It does not go away ever.  Racial differences cause discord is a society.  You people call this discord racism, but really there is no such thing as racism only tribalism.  You can try to ignore this fact if you want, but that does not mean that that these immagrants that you are importing into you land will ignore their tribal orgins.  They will all think as a tribe and look out for their tribal interests, to hell with everyone else or abstract ideas of universal equality under the law.  They will be out for their tribe against your tribe.</p>
<p>Enoch Powell predicted this would happen, and it has.  Now you have to deal with the problems that anti-racism has created.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1248486</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments everyone. Sorry for the delay between publishing and replying -- I&#039;ve been out all day.

Many thanks to MartinGibb and Anonymous for the information on Duncan Robertson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments everyone. Sorry for the delay between publishing and replying &#8212; I&#8217;ve been out all day.</p>
<p>Many thanks to MartinGibb and Anonymous for the information on Duncan Robertson.</p>
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		<title>By: Toxic</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1248209</link>
		<dc:creator>Toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;seemingly oblivious to the fact that Winston Churchill actually called for a “United States of Europe”. Ho hum.&quot;

Yes he did but a slight proviso...

&quot;We have our own dreams. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not compromised&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;seemingly oblivious to the fact that Winston Churchill actually called for a “United States of Europe”. Ho hum.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes he did but a slight proviso&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We have our own dreams. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not compromised&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Riddell</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2009/06/04/european-parliamentary-election-literature-small-parties/comment-page-1/#comment-1248042</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Riddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an informative overview of the fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an informative overview of the fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson appears to be the geezer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson</a> appears to be the geezer.</p>
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		<title>By: MartinGibb</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartinGibb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duncan Robertson.

Like you, I was curious who this &quot;Independent&quot; candidate was.  Even more curious when I noticed that although listed as a candidate on the BBC Elections09 pages, he is not listed in their page which outlines all the parties and what they stand for (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm#others).  Although they only offer a potted summary for parties, not independents who just get a name-mention ... but not for Mr Robertson.  

I diodn&#039;t find Google very helpful, so my third stop was Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson) and I think this has finally led me to the right place (http://www.duncanrobertson.eu/).

Any others who are also interested can now follow these links and similarly find out who Duncan Robertson is and what his views are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duncan Robertson.</p>
<p>Like you, I was curious who this &#8220;Independent&#8221; candidate was.  Even more curious when I noticed that although listed as a candidate on the BBC Elections09 pages, he is not listed in their page which outlines all the parties and what they stand for (<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm#others" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm#others'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060102.stm#others</a>).  Although they only offer a potted summary for parties, not independents who just get a name-mention &#8230; but not for Mr Robertson.  </p>
<p>I diodn&#8217;t find Google very helpful, so my third stop was Wikipedia (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Robertson</a>) and I think this has finally led me to the right place (<a href="http://www.duncanrobertson.eu/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.duncanrobertson.eu/'>http://www.duncanrobertson.eu/</a>).</p>
<p>Any others who are also interested can now follow these links and similarly find out who Duncan Robertson is and what his views are.</p>
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