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	<title>Comments on: The Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand-wagon</title>
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		<title>By: The ghostly roundup - Scottish Roundup</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/28/the-jonathan-ross-and-russell-brand-wagon/comment-page-1/#comment-790737</link>
		<dc:creator>The ghostly roundup - Scottish Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I had seen a couple of other posts on the Russell Brand / Jonathan Ross sex-phone scandal storm in a teacup from Clairwil and Bernard Salmon. And I added my own thoughts here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that people are more upset at Brand than Ross because it&#039;s his name on the show and people assume that a host is, to some extent, responsible for his guests.

I didn&#039;t like what I heard happened, but I know Russell Brand&#039;s sense of humour is generally offensive to me, so I&#039;m not surprised I didn&#039;t like it. Though I would have thought Radio 1 was a more fitting location for that type of material than Radio 2 anyway. Maybe the producers were caught out by the listenership of that programme (I can&#039;t see the Mail On Sunday paying quite so much attention to Radio 1 because it&#039;s not seen as &quot;middle class&quot;)... It wouldn&#039;t have occurred to me to seek out his material just so I could register an official complaint. Mum reckons it&#039;s symptomatic of the YouTube generation, but I think it&#039;s the age-old problem that some people just need something to complain about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that people are more upset at Brand than Ross because it&#8217;s his name on the show and people assume that a host is, to some extent, responsible for his guests.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t like what I heard happened, but I know Russell Brand&#8217;s sense of humour is generally offensive to me, so I&#8217;m not surprised I didn&#8217;t like it. Though I would have thought Radio 1 was a more fitting location for that type of material than Radio 2 anyway. Maybe the producers were caught out by the listenership of that programme (I can&#8217;t see the Mail On Sunday paying quite so much attention to Radio 1 because it&#8217;s not seen as &#8220;middle class&#8221;)&#8230; It wouldn&#8217;t have occurred to me to seek out his material just so I could register an official complaint. Mum reckons it&#8217;s symptomatic of the YouTube generation, but I think it&#8217;s the age-old problem that some people just need something to complain about.</p>
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		<title>By: Comedy Writer</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/28/the-jonathan-ross-and-russell-brand-wagon/comment-page-1/#comment-783399</link>
		<dc:creator>Comedy Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, the UK has lost it&#039;s sense of proportion.

The BBC have played into Ms Baillee’s hands, and  are giving her more exposure every day.

It’s a predictable response from the BBC, concerned about all the complaints from Middle England’s wifeswappers. Personally I’m more offended by Eastenders and Strictly Come Dancing.

www.the-comedy-writer.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, the UK has lost it&#8217;s sense of proportion.</p>
<p>The BBC have played into Ms Baillee’s hands, and  are giving her more exposure every day.</p>
<p>It’s a predictable response from the BBC, concerned about all the complaints from Middle England’s wifeswappers. Personally I’m more offended by Eastenders and Strictly Come Dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/28/the-jonathan-ross-and-russell-brand-wagon/comment-page-1/#comment-778412</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the show at the time of broadcast and it *was* cringeworthy and not up to the usual standard.  Ross and Brand&#039;s radio shows are - IMO - both very funny when they can be bothered to write decent material; which is, after all, why they are on primetime radio.  

If they can&#039;t be arsed to use their writing talent, instead relying on rude prank calls and boasting about who they&#039;ve slept with for LOLs, then they need to make way for other presenters - of who I&#039;m sure there are many - queueing for the opportunity.  

That&#039;s the only reason I&#039;d want to see either of them given the boot - not because some revolting tabloid, or 10000 people who have probably never even listened to the show, are getting their knickers in a twist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the show at the time of broadcast and it *was* cringeworthy and not up to the usual standard.  Ross and Brand&#8217;s radio shows are &#8211; IMO &#8211; both very funny when they can be bothered to write decent material; which is, after all, why they are on primetime radio.  </p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t be arsed to use their writing talent, instead relying on rude prank calls and boasting about who they&#8217;ve slept with for LOLs, then they need to make way for other presenters &#8211; of who I&#8217;m sure there are many &#8211; queueing for the opportunity.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only reason I&#8217;d want to see either of them given the boot &#8211; not because some revolting tabloid, or 10000 people who have probably never even listened to the show, are getting their knickers in a twist.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/28/the-jonathan-ross-and-russell-brand-wagon/comment-page-1/#comment-777776</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross and Brand were a bit out of order (from what I heard of the show, it was mainly Jonathan Ross pushing the point), but that is what the editorial process is for, otherwise the show would go out live. 

Apparently there were only TWO complaints when the show originally aired, so the rest of the people who complained must have sought out the  item in order to be offended by it, which is pretty sad!

Contrast this with Chris Moyles (with his £630,000-a-year salary), he is sexist, racist and homophobic, yet I don&#039;t remember the Daily Mail or its readers getting their knickers in a twist when Moyles referred to female listeners as &quot;dirty whores&quot;, nor when he called Victoria Beckham &quot;a whore&quot; on air, not when he upset guest Halle Berry, who later accused Moyles of having &quot;a racist moment&quot;. There was also controversy over homophobic comments and used of the f-word on air. He has done the show drunk and also not turned up to broadcast (and all of this is on his fan site, so he is clearly proud of it). Well worth over half a million a year of licence payers money? I think not!

I guess that you have to offend a straight white man before anyone gets upset (though I don&#039;t get the impression that Andrew Sachs is actually that upset about what happened). 

As for the politicians, well clearly this story was a great boost to Gordon Brown, while the airwaves are full of discussion about this non-story, no one is talking about the important stuff, like the fact that the economy is in serious trouble and the government don&#039;t seem to know what to do about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross and Brand were a bit out of order (from what I heard of the show, it was mainly Jonathan Ross pushing the point), but that is what the editorial process is for, otherwise the show would go out live. </p>
<p>Apparently there were only TWO complaints when the show originally aired, so the rest of the people who complained must have sought out the  item in order to be offended by it, which is pretty sad!</p>
<p>Contrast this with Chris Moyles (with his £630,000-a-year salary), he is sexist, racist and homophobic, yet I don&#8217;t remember the Daily Mail or its readers getting their knickers in a twist when Moyles referred to female listeners as &#8220;dirty whores&#8221;, nor when he called Victoria Beckham &#8220;a whore&#8221; on air, not when he upset guest Halle Berry, who later accused Moyles of having &#8220;a racist moment&#8221;. There was also controversy over homophobic comments and used of the f-word on air. He has done the show drunk and also not turned up to broadcast (and all of this is on his fan site, so he is clearly proud of it). Well worth over half a million a year of licence payers money? I think not!</p>
<p>I guess that you have to offend a straight white man before anyone gets upset (though I don&#8217;t get the impression that Andrew Sachs is actually that upset about what happened). </p>
<p>As for the politicians, well clearly this story was a great boost to Gordon Brown, while the airwaves are full of discussion about this non-story, no one is talking about the important stuff, like the fact that the economy is in serious trouble and the government don&#8217;t seem to know what to do about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is the pits isn&#039;t it?  I didn&#039;t hear the show, but considering stuff I&#039;ve heard from both Brand and Ross in the past I&#039;m really unconvinced this is the worst thing either of them have done.

Yes, the fact it was pre-recorded should probably have meant it shouldn&#039;t have been broadcast but even that doesn&#039;t warrant all this crap.

From what I&#039;ve seen politics-wise, the PM seemed to be trying to give a generic answer but Cameron was a bit more forthright on having to have an inquiry, etc.

What a complete waste of everyone&#039;s time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is the pits isn&#8217;t it?  I didn&#8217;t hear the show, but considering stuff I&#8217;ve heard from both Brand and Ross in the past I&#8217;m really unconvinced this is the worst thing either of them have done.</p>
<p>Yes, the fact it was pre-recorded should probably have meant it shouldn&#8217;t have been broadcast but even that doesn&#8217;t warrant all this crap.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen politics-wise, the PM seemed to be trying to give a generic answer but Cameron was a bit more forthright on having to have an inquiry, etc.</p>
<p>What a complete waste of everyone&#8217;s time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: ManMadeMound</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManMadeMound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post -- More background &amp; &quot;perspective&quot; on here...

http://manmademound.blogspot.com/2008/10/worse-than-obama.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post &#8212; More background &amp; &#8220;perspective&#8221; on here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/10/28/the-jonathan-ross-and-russell-brand-wagon/comment-page-1/#comment-776117</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodo, for a while I thought either it was just me that was a little bit baffled and more than a tad nonplussed by this all. Wake me up when the teacup&#039;s a bit calmer will you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodo, for a while I thought either it was just me that was a little bit baffled and more than a tad nonplussed by this all. Wake me up when the teacup&#8217;s a bit calmer will you.</p>
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		<title>By: Technomist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is symptomatic of something. There has been a lot of anger about in a wide section of society at the decadent culture which the BBC promotes. 

You may not like it that it took a couple of weeks to get its voice heard, but the anger is still an authentic voice of a significant section of the population who are fed up with dumbed down  cultural impunity. 

I listened to the show and saw the TV images and was appalled by the obnoxious behaviour of Brand and Ross. Why should they be allowed to earn their very generous crust at the unaccountable expense of ordinary law abiding people when they behave in this unacceptable manner? 

I agree that there are many other important issues about, but that is no reason to ignore the irresponsibility and bullying they have engaged in. The BBC needs to explain itself and ensure this kind of thing stops. A fair response if this were done in any other work place, would be to sack them. Making abusive phone calls is, after all, a criminal offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is symptomatic of something. There has been a lot of anger about in a wide section of society at the decadent culture which the BBC promotes. </p>
<p>You may not like it that it took a couple of weeks to get its voice heard, but the anger is still an authentic voice of a significant section of the population who are fed up with dumbed down  cultural impunity. </p>
<p>I listened to the show and saw the TV images and was appalled by the obnoxious behaviour of Brand and Ross. Why should they be allowed to earn their very generous crust at the unaccountable expense of ordinary law abiding people when they behave in this unacceptable manner? </p>
<p>I agree that there are many other important issues about, but that is no reason to ignore the irresponsibility and bullying they have engaged in. The BBC needs to explain itself and ensure this kind of thing stops. A fair response if this were done in any other work place, would be to sack them. Making abusive phone calls is, after all, a criminal offense.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IoC -- I agree with you. My beef is with the media hysteria as a whole. Whether a journalist asked Gordon Brown or he came out with it himself, it shows a complete lack of proportion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IoC &#8212; I agree with you. My beef is with the media hysteria as a whole. Whether a journalist asked Gordon Brown or he came out with it himself, it shows a complete lack of proportion.</p>
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