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	<title>Comments on: Okay, one more post about the Olympics then&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Applegate</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/08/09/okay-one-more-post-about-the-olympics-then/comment-page-1/#comment-667671</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Applegate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Olympics of course provide the host country with a means of legitimising or enhancing the existing regime, but it works both ways, it also opens it to greater exposure and awareness. Think of all the Tibet-related protests this year - not that it helps the Tibetans much, but they would never have been on the scale they were had the Olympics not taken place.

As for it being part of China&#039;s success, you seem to be missing the point - this is an integral stage of China&#039;s move to superpower, not just a cherry on the top. International sporting and cultural events have long been used by countries to affirm their status (for good as well as bad - think Tokyo in 1964 as part of Japan&#039;s rehabilitation as a peaceful &amp; democratic country, or the minor ex-Eastern Bloc nations&#039; joy at hosting Eurovision to help put themselves on the map). Getting as far as being considered worthy (financially and geopolitically) of hosting an Olympics means you&#039;ve come a long way, but it&#039;s by no means the end. The really interesting story is what happens in China after this is all over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Olympics of course provide the host country with a means of legitimising or enhancing the existing regime, but it works both ways, it also opens it to greater exposure and awareness. Think of all the Tibet-related protests this year &#8211; not that it helps the Tibetans much, but they would never have been on the scale they were had the Olympics not taken place.</p>
<p>As for it being part of China&#8217;s success, you seem to be missing the point &#8211; this is an integral stage of China&#8217;s move to superpower, not just a cherry on the top. International sporting and cultural events have long been used by countries to affirm their status (for good as well as bad &#8211; think Tokyo in 1964 as part of Japan&#8217;s rehabilitation as a peaceful &amp; democratic country, or the minor ex-Eastern Bloc nations&#8217; joy at hosting Eurovision to help put themselves on the map). Getting as far as being considered worthy (financially and geopolitically) of hosting an Olympics means you&#8217;ve come a long way, but it&#8217;s by no means the end. The really interesting story is what happens in China after this is all over.</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be watching the Olympics and (particularly) the Paralympics, in the hope that the attitude and behavior of the athletes persuades the Chinese to be less hypocritical than they have been. It is difficult for me to believe that China as a nation is friendly and welcoming when it categorically bars any non-Chinese person with Asperger&#039;s Syndrome from entering the country because they have an outdated view on neurodiversity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be watching the Olympics and (particularly) the Paralympics, in the hope that the attitude and behavior of the athletes persuades the Chinese to be less hypocritical than they have been. It is difficult for me to believe that China as a nation is friendly and welcoming when it categorically bars any non-Chinese person with Asperger&#8217;s Syndrome from entering the country because they have an outdated view on neurodiversity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jack stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the connection between sport and war,...
I don&#039;t know which came first; American Football or American military tactics. Both seem to consist in throwing men into attack willy-nilly and then having an almighty scrap.
Thinking about it, probably the tactics came first (American civil war.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the connection between sport and war,&#8230;<br />
I don&#8217;t know which came first; American Football or American military tactics. Both seem to consist in throwing men into attack willy-nilly and then having an almighty scrap.<br />
Thinking about it, probably the tactics came first (American civil war.)</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I think in that last paragraph you&#039;ve hit on one of my main points about the Olympics. That guff about it being &quot;non-political&quot; and &quot;peaceful&quot; really is a load of nonsense. It is war.

You could argue that it is more benign than a genuine war. But given that the Olympics have in the past provided a vital platform to the likes of Hitler, Soviet leaders, international terrorists and now a pretty questionable Chinese regime, I can&#039;t help but think that the Olympics are not so benign after all.

The point about the Olympics in the context of China&#039;s success economically and politically is an interesting angle, I would agree that this is a valid story to report. But I think people would be talking about it anyway, and it ought not to take Beijing 2008 to realise China&#039;s incredible emergence on the world scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I think in that last paragraph you&#8217;ve hit on one of my main points about the Olympics. That guff about it being &#8220;non-political&#8221; and &#8220;peaceful&#8221; really is a load of nonsense. It is war.</p>
<p>You could argue that it is more benign than a genuine war. But given that the Olympics have in the past provided a vital platform to the likes of Hitler, Soviet leaders, international terrorists and now a pretty questionable Chinese regime, I can&#8217;t help but think that the Olympics are not so benign after all.</p>
<p>The point about the Olympics in the context of China&#8217;s success economically and politically is an interesting angle, I would agree that this is a valid story to report. But I think people would be talking about it anyway, and it ought not to take Beijing 2008 to realise China&#8217;s incredible emergence on the world scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Applegate</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/08/09/okay-one-more-post-about-the-olympics-then/comment-page-1/#comment-664186</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Applegate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it is impossible to escape any mention of the Olympics at all - but then why should you? It&#039;s the world&#039;s biggest sporting event, it&#039;s only held once every four years and one that allows the world&#039;s smaller countries and minority sports to get a look in once in a while (hence the World Service coverage). It&#039;s not just us who have all attention on it but pretty much every country in the world. Like it or not, it is a big story, not least because of the much wider context of China&#039;s enormous financial and geopolitical success of the past decade or so.

And all told, it&#039;s fairly easy to filter it out - just as in the same way I filter out stuff that I have no interest in - whether it be Big Brother, Eastenders or (whisper) Formula One. The time difference means at least the evening schedules are kept relatively clear as well.

Finally, whether it&#039;s more important than a war - what you forget is the Olympics &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; war, albeit a sanitised version. Writers (most notably Orwell) have long opined on the warlike nature of sport. Many of the events at the Games themselves are based on Ancient Greek war training - from the pole vault (jumping over enemy walls) to the discus (weapon to use on the enemy) - so much so the modern games decided to invent Modern Pentathlon to cover the skills a 20th century warrior might need. In the background you of course have the political controversies, from Berlin 1936 onwards the games have been politicised. Is it a waste of money? Perhaps, but a much more benign waste than the colossal waste of money real wars (especially illegal and unjust ones) are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it is impossible to escape any mention of the Olympics at all &#8211; but then why should you? It&#8217;s the world&#8217;s biggest sporting event, it&#8217;s only held once every four years and one that allows the world&#8217;s smaller countries and minority sports to get a look in once in a while (hence the World Service coverage). It&#8217;s not just us who have all attention on it but pretty much every country in the world. Like it or not, it is a big story, not least because of the much wider context of China&#8217;s enormous financial and geopolitical success of the past decade or so.</p>
<p>And all told, it&#8217;s fairly easy to filter it out &#8211; just as in the same way I filter out stuff that I have no interest in &#8211; whether it be Big Brother, Eastenders or (whisper) Formula One. The time difference means at least the evening schedules are kept relatively clear as well.</p>
<p>Finally, whether it&#8217;s more important than a war &#8211; what you forget is the Olympics <em>is</em> war, albeit a sanitised version. Writers (most notably Orwell) have long opined on the warlike nature of sport. Many of the events at the Games themselves are based on Ancient Greek war training &#8211; from the pole vault (jumping over enemy walls) to the discus (weapon to use on the enemy) &#8211; so much so the modern games decided to invent Modern Pentathlon to cover the skills a 20th century warrior might need. In the background you of course have the political controversies, from Berlin 1936 onwards the games have been politicised. Is it a waste of money? Perhaps, but a much more benign waste than the colossal waste of money real wars (especially illegal and unjust ones) are.</p>
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