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	<title>Comments on: Lewis Hamilton&#039;s Jekyll and Hyde career</title>
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		<title>By: Juan H</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/08/lewis-hamiltons-jekyll-and-hyde-career/comment-page-1/#comment-1505707</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, as mentioned before, you have to be really brave to write here in terms that do not follow the hype of the British press and some bloggers (i.e. read a message a little bit above).

If I have to believe what some people say, once Lewis fails (eventually) the same British press will &quot;kill&quot; Lewis as it happened before with Button etc. In this sense, it (how McLaren managed the whole thing last year) will be a practical demonstration of how to burn out a young promise. You are still in time of changing the situation so that does not happen; in fact I do want Lewis plenty of energy, and, obviously, that Fernando gets a decent car. Then we will have one of the most fascinating years regarding F1 racing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, as mentioned before, you have to be really brave to write here in terms that do not follow the hype of the British press and some bloggers (i.e. read a message a little bit above).</p>
<p>If I have to believe what some people say, once Lewis fails (eventually) the same British press will &#8220;kill&#8221; Lewis as it happened before with Button etc. In this sense, it (how McLaren managed the whole thing last year) will be a practical demonstration of how to burn out a young promise. You are still in time of changing the situation so that does not happen; in fact I do want Lewis plenty of energy, and, obviously, that Fernando gets a decent car. Then we will have one of the most fascinating years regarding F1 racing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammy the Finn</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/08/lewis-hamiltons-jekyll-and-hyde-career/comment-page-1/#comment-1505706</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy the Finn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good posts and comments on this thread. Congrats. I am not sure if I can add any new comments to this thread but I will try with my 2 cents.

My conclusion of LH is that he is surely a quick driver but probably lacks in the department of setting up the car. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence of that.

He came into a top team with best car in years. Alonso did a lot of setup work of the car and Lewis was only happy to drive it. He didn&#039;t much contribute to the setup. I remember Alonso complaining many times that as soon as he had found a new setup it was always immediately copied to Lewis&#039; car. First time last mid season (I forgot which race) LH differed from the setup of FA and got it immediately wrong.

Remember, Lewis hasn&#039;t been driving F1 before (like Alonso) and hasn&#039;t been a test driver (like Heikki). Rookies of this year have commented that biggest difference in F1 is the amount of testing required, indicating the lack of that in other series. So the F1 testing and setting up can&#039;t be learnt without years in F1 driving or F1 testing. This is where Hamilton lacks experience.

Consequently this is why this idea of Year in the Shed looks to be right to the point. One needs that experience to be able to set up the car correctly.

Other note is about winning from behind the pole. Great champions have won races from any grid position for example Schumi, Alonso, Kimi. On the other hand Lewis and Massa have won races only from pole (before Bahrain, and even the Massa practically won from the pole). I am sure Lewis is a good driver but he is overhyped and overrated mostly by british media (but that sells newspapers very well...). Outside the rainy island there is little bit more objective treatment of LH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good posts and comments on this thread. Congrats. I am not sure if I can add any new comments to this thread but I will try with my 2 cents.</p>
<p>My conclusion of LH is that he is surely a quick driver but probably lacks in the department of setting up the car. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence of that.</p>
<p>He came into a top team with best car in years. Alonso did a lot of setup work of the car and Lewis was only happy to drive it. He didn&#8217;t much contribute to the setup. I remember Alonso complaining many times that as soon as he had found a new setup it was always immediately copied to Lewis&#8217; car. First time last mid season (I forgot which race) LH differed from the setup of FA and got it immediately wrong.</p>
<p>Remember, Lewis hasn&#8217;t been driving F1 before (like Alonso) and hasn&#8217;t been a test driver (like Heikki). Rookies of this year have commented that biggest difference in F1 is the amount of testing required, indicating the lack of that in other series. So the F1 testing and setting up can&#8217;t be learnt without years in F1 driving or F1 testing. This is where Hamilton lacks experience.</p>
<p>Consequently this is why this idea of Year in the Shed looks to be right to the point. One needs that experience to be able to set up the car correctly.</p>
<p>Other note is about winning from behind the pole. Great champions have won races from any grid position for example Schumi, Alonso, Kimi. On the other hand Lewis and Massa have won races only from pole (before Bahrain, and even the Massa practically won from the pole). I am sure Lewis is a good driver but he is overhyped and overrated mostly by british media (but that sells newspapers very well&#8230;). Outside the rainy island there is little bit more objective treatment of LH.</p>
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		<title>By: Haggis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haggis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ S Hughes

Personally, I am not wishing Lewis to fail, and my thoughts about him have nothing at all to do with his &quot;race&quot; (we were all of the human race last i checked).

I personally would be extremely happy if Lewis became the  World Champion in 2008, but on the showing so far this year, I&#039;m not sure that that will happen, primarily because I and, it would appear from the above posts, many others do not think he&#039;s ready yet. I think that Lewis is at the head of a number of young drivers who are bringing in a refreshing change of the guard in F1, a list which also includes Robert Kubica, Nico Rosberg &amp; the 2 Sebs. That is to be welcomed.

However, at present we know that Lewis can drive a great car well, but can he turn a good car into a great one? That is the question that is being posed here. Race, and negativity about Lewis, have nothing to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ S Hughes</p>
<p>Personally, I am not wishing Lewis to fail, and my thoughts about him have nothing at all to do with his &#8220;race&#8221; (we were all of the human race last i checked).</p>
<p>I personally would be extremely happy if Lewis became the  World Champion in 2008, but on the showing so far this year, I&#8217;m not sure that that will happen, primarily because I and, it would appear from the above posts, many others do not think he&#8217;s ready yet. I think that Lewis is at the head of a number of young drivers who are bringing in a refreshing change of the guard in F1, a list which also includes Robert Kubica, Nico Rosberg &amp; the 2 Sebs. That is to be welcomed.</p>
<p>However, at present we know that Lewis can drive a great car well, but can he turn a good car into a great one? That is the question that is being posed here. Race, and negativity about Lewis, have nothing to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: S Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan H, how can you call it &quot;brave writing&quot; when you all bleeding agree with each other.  I think my writing is &quot;brave&quot; because I can imagine the flak that will pour down to  have the temerity to support Lewis.  I won&#039;t return to read it because I do admit, it&#039;s depressing and disheartening.  But I have to have my say.  Gosh, you all sound like a right nasty bunch of barstewards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan H, how can you call it &#8220;brave writing&#8221; when you all bleeding agree with each other.  I think my writing is &#8220;brave&#8221; because I can imagine the flak that will pour down to  have the temerity to support Lewis.  I won&#8217;t return to read it because I do admit, it&#8217;s depressing and disheartening.  But I have to have my say.  Gosh, you all sound like a right nasty bunch of barstewards.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You came back quickly, S Hughes.</description>
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		<title>By: S Hughes</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/08/lewis-hamiltons-jekyll-and-hyde-career/comment-page-1/#comment-1505702</link>
		<dc:creator>S Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F1 Wolf, you&#039;ve confirmed how little you actually watch the races by not knowing how Lewis finished behind Heikki twice this year.  Hamilton was heading for a podium after overtaking Heikki in the first lap in Malaysia - the 20 second pitstop when they couldn&#039;t get the wheel off did for him.  You seem to fit the &quot;facts&quot; around your argument instead of looking at what actually happened.  You&#039;re all so smug in your agreement of Lewis&#039; uselessness, his lack of set up ability.  I&#039;ve read quite expert writings about the set up myth being something perpetrated by the Spanish media, and the good ol&#039; Brits have taken it by the teeth and run with it and some!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F1 Wolf, you&#8217;ve confirmed how little you actually watch the races by not knowing how Lewis finished behind Heikki twice this year.  Hamilton was heading for a podium after overtaking Heikki in the first lap in Malaysia &#8211; the 20 second pitstop when they couldn&#8217;t get the wheel off did for him.  You seem to fit the &#8220;facts&#8221; around your argument instead of looking at what actually happened.  You&#8217;re all so smug in your agreement of Lewis&#8217; uselessness, his lack of set up ability.  I&#8217;ve read quite expert writings about the set up myth being something perpetrated by the Spanish media, and the good ol&#8217; Brits have taken it by the teeth and run with it and some!</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the racism card. Beautiful. Remember, I wasn&#039;t the first one to mention Lewis Hamilton&#039;s race. It is deeply ironic that this argument should be plucked out time and time again given that so many people support Lewis Hamilton purely because of where he comes from, purely because the British press are desperate to see a British winner and will throw stones at Alonso for the heinous crime of being a Spaniard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the racism card. Beautiful. Remember, I wasn&#8217;t the first one to mention Lewis Hamilton&#8217;s race. It is deeply ironic that this argument should be plucked out time and time again given that so many people support Lewis Hamilton purely because of where he comes from, purely because the British press are desperate to see a British winner and will throw stones at Alonso for the heinous crime of being a Spaniard.</p>
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		<title>By: S Hughes</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/08/lewis-hamiltons-jekyll-and-hyde-career/comment-page-1/#comment-1505700</link>
		<dc:creator>S Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are rubbish.  How can you say Hamilton is the Golden Boy?  Never NEVER have I seen so much negativity thrown at one driver.  Never NEVER have I seen such glee in someone&#039;s downfall.  Especially from nasty bloggers like you, and the British public and the British media.  The few who stick up for him come in for the most appalling stick.  I sometimes wonder where you people come from, I really do.  I think you will only be pleased if Hamilton is hounded out of F1 by a pack of rabid dogs and exiled to a barren island for the rest of his life.  To say his amazing first year was a fluke is stupid, no more no less.  He has made mistakes, but his mistakes are pounced on so much harder than anyone else&#039;s.  Coulthard and Button are rubbish in most races, embarrassingly so, but they still have people slavering after them with admiration, for what I do not know.  Massa has been less than brilliant this season so far, crashing out of 2 races, and now because he&#039;s won one race, he&#039;s suddenly better than Hamilton.  What utter rubbish.  Raikkonen had a poor first race, but that just goes unnoticed.  Then when Hamilton wins, he is criticised for doing it from pole.  Most of Alonso&#039;s wins were from pole too.  Hamilton gets criticised more for the same things other drivers do but they don&#039;t get any criticism.  Well I hope you enjoy your orgy of schadenfreude.  I personally hope that Hamilton wins every race left this season, FROM POLE, just to get the haters frothing at the mouth.  I&#039;m sick of the lot of you!

I can only think that the hatred he receives stems from racism, because you obviously hate this polite, decent black man doing so well in what you deem to be a white man&#039;s sport.  I won&#039;t return to this stupid blog to read the replies if I get any, as they usually go round in circles: &quot;how dare you say I&#039;m racist&quot;, blah blah blah.  I know the truth and it saddens and disgusts me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are rubbish.  How can you say Hamilton is the Golden Boy?  Never NEVER have I seen so much negativity thrown at one driver.  Never NEVER have I seen such glee in someone&#8217;s downfall.  Especially from nasty bloggers like you, and the British public and the British media.  The few who stick up for him come in for the most appalling stick.  I sometimes wonder where you people come from, I really do.  I think you will only be pleased if Hamilton is hounded out of F1 by a pack of rabid dogs and exiled to a barren island for the rest of his life.  To say his amazing first year was a fluke is stupid, no more no less.  He has made mistakes, but his mistakes are pounced on so much harder than anyone else&#8217;s.  Coulthard and Button are rubbish in most races, embarrassingly so, but they still have people slavering after them with admiration, for what I do not know.  Massa has been less than brilliant this season so far, crashing out of 2 races, and now because he&#8217;s won one race, he&#8217;s suddenly better than Hamilton.  What utter rubbish.  Raikkonen had a poor first race, but that just goes unnoticed.  Then when Hamilton wins, he is criticised for doing it from pole.  Most of Alonso&#8217;s wins were from pole too.  Hamilton gets criticised more for the same things other drivers do but they don&#8217;t get any criticism.  Well I hope you enjoy your orgy of schadenfreude.  I personally hope that Hamilton wins every race left this season, FROM POLE, just to get the haters frothing at the mouth.  I&#8217;m sick of the lot of you!</p>
<p>I can only think that the hatred he receives stems from racism, because you obviously hate this polite, decent black man doing so well in what you deem to be a white man&#8217;s sport.  I won&#8217;t return to this stupid blog to read the replies if I get any, as they usually go round in circles: &#8220;how dare you say I&#8217;m racist&#8221;, blah blah blah.  I know the truth and it saddens and disgusts me.</p>
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		<title>By: Haggis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haggis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking this since Hungary almost - its about car set-up, and Lewis seems to be lacking in that department.

The wise move for McLaren at the end of last year would be to bring in a more experienced head who could take Lewis under his wing - Webber or Button perhaps? It seemed like they were concentrating too much on making sure Lewis was #1, rather than what would do him &amp; McLaren the best long term.

At some point last season Lewis started to believe his own hype and quit learning. He had the chance to work with and learn from the reigning world champion and he turned it into a battle that neither of them won. He won&#039;t get that chance again.

I sincerely hope that this turns out to be nonsense and McLaren &amp; Lewis come right back into it in Barcelona, but at the moment Lewis looks pretty much equal to his team-mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking this since Hungary almost &#8211; its about car set-up, and Lewis seems to be lacking in that department.</p>
<p>The wise move for McLaren at the end of last year would be to bring in a more experienced head who could take Lewis under his wing &#8211; Webber or Button perhaps? It seemed like they were concentrating too much on making sure Lewis was #1, rather than what would do him &amp; McLaren the best long term.</p>
<p>At some point last season Lewis started to believe his own hype and quit learning. He had the chance to work with and learn from the reigning world champion and he turned it into a battle that neither of them won. He won&#8217;t get that chance again.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that this turns out to be nonsense and McLaren &amp; Lewis come right back into it in Barcelona, but at the moment Lewis looks pretty much equal to his team-mate.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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