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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-03 &#124; smarterthanyouraverage.com</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-1359766</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-03 &#124; smarterthanyouraverage.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorting out my sleeping patterns » doctorvee Oooh, love a blog post with a good graph. And sleep is always an interesting subject. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sleeping patterns: progress update &#171; doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-598288</link>
		<dc:creator>Sleeping patterns: progress update &#171; doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first post about my sleeping patterns was a surprise hit. So I have decided to write a second update as I reach the halfway mark of my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-433010</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips again 4u1e! Sleep deprivation therapy sounds a bit scary, and sounds quite difficult for me to pull off anyway. The other tips sound more like it, I&#039;ll definitely try out the alarm at the other side of the room. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips again 4u1e! Sleep deprivation therapy sounds a bit scary, and sounds quite difficult for me to pull off anyway. The other tips sound more like it, I&#8217;ll definitely try out the alarm at the other side of the room. <img src='http://doctorvee.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 4u1e</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-432636</link>
		<dc:creator>4u1e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite your view, interesting post! Very sensible comments all round.

What worked for me with a similar problem was &#039;Sleep deprivation therapy&#039;. Or something like that. I picked it up in a sleep workshop in Sarf London (!). It&#039;s more about building your sleep up to the full 8 hours (or whatever) if you&#039;re not getting enough. The principle is that you set yourself a rigid waking time, but deliberately go to bed late to deprive yourself of sleep. Over a period of weeks you then keep your getting up time constant but slowly (in 15 min chunks, I think) move your going to bed time back. The first week is a nightmare, but it does work. You can probably google the details.

As far as getting up at the right time: alarm clock across the room works for me, particularly if you arrange things so you can&#039;t just tumble back into bed. You could also try setting the lights to come on at your get up time.

For getting to sleep at the right time: warm milky drink (yeah, it&#039;s a cliché, but it helps); mediation or relaxation exercise before going to bed; cold-ish bedroom; avoiding reading or watching telly in bed. The advice I was given if you&#039;re lying awake in bed for more than an hour is to get up and read something &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; boring for about 15 mins.

Routine is your friend in all of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite your view, interesting post! Very sensible comments all round.</p>
<p>What worked for me with a similar problem was &#8216;Sleep deprivation therapy&#8217;. Or something like that. I picked it up in a sleep workshop in Sarf London (!). It&#8217;s more about building your sleep up to the full 8 hours (or whatever) if you&#8217;re not getting enough. The principle is that you set yourself a rigid waking time, but deliberately go to bed late to deprive yourself of sleep. Over a period of weeks you then keep your getting up time constant but slowly (in 15 min chunks, I think) move your going to bed time back. The first week is a nightmare, but it does work. You can probably google the details.</p>
<p>As far as getting up at the right time: alarm clock across the room works for me, particularly if you arrange things so you can&#8217;t just tumble back into bed. You could also try setting the lights to come on at your get up time.</p>
<p>For getting to sleep at the right time: warm milky drink (yeah, it&#8217;s a cliché, but it helps); mediation or relaxation exercise before going to bed; cold-ish bedroom; avoiding reading or watching telly in bed. The advice I was given if you&#8217;re lying awake in bed for more than an hour is to get up and read something <i>really</i> boring for about 15 mins.</p>
<p>Routine is your friend in all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-429471</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments everyone. Sorry it&#039;s taken me so long to respond -- had a busy weekend.

Tom -- Thanks for the tip on tea. I&#039;ll stop drinking it after 6pm.

Duncan2 -- I&#039;ve tried the trick of putting the alarm clock at the other side of the room. Problem was that even then I would go straight back to bed! Might be worth trying again though and see if I have the discipline to stay up this time round.

Thanks James!

I have to say, I&#039;m surprised this post got such a reaction. &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/doctorvee/statuses/781015193&quot;&gt;I thought this was quite a lame post&lt;/a&gt; but it has got a good response and I&#039;ve come away with some great tips. Thanks everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments everyone. Sorry it&#8217;s taken me so long to respond &#8212; had a busy weekend.</p>
<p>Tom &#8212; Thanks for the tip on tea. I&#8217;ll stop drinking it after 6pm.</p>
<p>Duncan2 &#8212; I&#8217;ve tried the trick of putting the alarm clock at the other side of the room. Problem was that even then I would go straight back to bed! Might be worth trying again though and see if I have the discipline to stay up this time round.</p>
<p>Thanks James!</p>
<p>I have to say, I&#8217;m surprised this post got such a reaction. <a href="http://twitter.com/doctorvee/statuses/781015193">I thought this was quite a lame post</a> but it has got a good response and I&#8217;ve come away with some great tips. Thanks everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to laugh so much - wonderful, Duncan - it goes straight into the blogfocus.</description>
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		<title>By: duncan2</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-423178</link>
		<dc:creator>duncan2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reminds me of when I was a student, I went from sleeping in in the mornings, to not getting up until the evening and going to bed at dawn.  not a good pattern to get into.  normal work hours will force you into a more typical sleep pattern, but if you really want to be a night owl, you can always get a nightshift...  

cut out all the caffeinated drinks, coke etc.  put your alarm clock away from the bed, so you&#039;ve actually got to get out of bed to switch it off.  get one that&#039;s both noisy and awkward to switch off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reminds me of when I was a student, I went from sleeping in in the mornings, to not getting up until the evening and going to bed at dawn.  not a good pattern to get into.  normal work hours will force you into a more typical sleep pattern, but if you really want to be a night owl, you can always get a nightshift&#8230;  </p>
<p>cut out all the caffeinated drinks, coke etc.  put your alarm clock away from the bed, so you&#8217;ve actually got to get out of bed to switch it off.  get one that&#8217;s both noisy and awkward to switch off.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-422884</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually have the reverse problem - falling asleep in front of the telly during the evening (and MISSING what I stayed up for!) and sometimes waking up before my alarm (which is set for 5.30am).

I&#039;d also say that caffeine looks like part of your problem. If cutting that doesn&#039;t work I find a couple of glasses of wine have the opposite effect. Dunno if you drink though. 

And drink the wine in a warm, but not hot, room.

G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually have the reverse problem &#8211; falling asleep in front of the telly during the evening (and MISSING what I stayed up for!) and sometimes waking up before my alarm (which is set for 5.30am).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also say that caffeine looks like part of your problem. If cutting that doesn&#8217;t work I find a couple of glasses of wine have the opposite effect. Dunno if you drink though. </p>
<p>And drink the wine in a warm, but not hot, room.</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-03 - Smarter Than Your Average</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-03 - Smarter Than Your Average</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sorting out my sleeping patterns » doctorvee Oooh, love a blog post with a good graph. And sleep is always an interesting subject.      Published in Links [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2008/04/01/sorting-out-my-sleeping-patterns/comment-page-1/#comment-421307</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was exactly the same until I got a proper, full time job.  I still don&#039;t kip till gone 4am on a Sunday night - but when you have to get up or be fired it really helps your sleeping pattern.  I wouldn&#039;t let it stress you out too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was exactly the same until I got a proper, full time job.  I still don&#8217;t kip till gone 4am on a Sunday night &#8211; but when you have to get up or be fired it really helps your sleeping pattern.  I wouldn&#8217;t let it stress you out too much.</p>
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