Comments on: A problem with STV http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/ Not a real vee Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:05:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: doctorvee » Wow, I’m tired. But I’ll write a massive post about the election anyway http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78272 doctorvee » Wow, I’m tired. But I’ll write a massive post about the election anyway Thu, 03 May 2007 21:00:57 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78272 [...] case you were wondering — yes, that it everyone except Labour. I wrote before about how queasy I felt about voting for anyone apart from the Lib [...] [...] case you were wondering — yes, that it everyone except Labour. I wrote before about how queasy I felt about voting for anyone apart from the Lib [...]

]]> By: doctorvee http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78013 doctorvee Wed, 02 May 2007 22:48:14 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78013 It's true, STV's blasé attitude to this has repercussions. Their justification for not doing their own election coverage is that BBC Scotland is doing it. Well, BBC Scotland also do the local news. So why not just ditch Scotland Today as well? And every single regional programme around (however many left there are, about three?). Hell, just ditch the entire channel. After all, the BBC have their own channels, so why bother providing a different service? It’s true, STV’s blasé attitude to this has repercussions. Their justification for not doing their own election coverage is that BBC Scotland is doing it.

Well, BBC Scotland also do the local news. So why not just ditch Scotland Today as well? And every single regional programme around (however many left there are, about three?).

Hell, just ditch the entire channel. After all, the BBC have their own channels, so why bother providing a different service?

]]> By: Deacon Barry http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78007 Deacon Barry Wed, 02 May 2007 22:06:45 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-78007 That's People's Front of Judaea! I must admit I'm surprised that STV is not covering a Scottish election. If Labour lose, in Scotland (!), that's a major political upheaval, and extremely newsworthy. To not bother with the election sends a poor message to the powers that be in Broadcasting House about the possibility of setting up a Scottish News at Six, instead of continuing with Reporting Scotland. That’s People’s Front of Judaea!
I must admit I’m surprised that STV is not covering a Scottish election. If Labour lose, in Scotland (!), that’s a major political upheaval, and extremely newsworthy. To not bother with the election sends a poor message to the powers that be in Broadcasting House about the possibility of setting up a Scottish News at Six, instead of continuing with Reporting Scotland.

]]> By: doctorvee http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77266 doctorvee Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:50:54 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77266 I wonder why the parties aren't even more willing to field more candidates, but tell people to rank Mr X 1, Ms Y 2 and Miss Z 3. That is what Labour have done here, and I assume any parties that are fielding more than one candidate are doing this. I guess it could lead to some bruised egos, but the party list in the D'Hondt system probably already does this. And I suppose there is still a risk of splitting the vote. But it must be better than having only one candidate...? I wonder why the parties aren’t even more willing to field more candidates, but tell people to rank Mr X 1, Ms Y 2 and Miss Z 3. That is what Labour have done here, and I assume any parties that are fielding more than one candidate are doing this.

I guess it could lead to some bruised egos, but the party list in the D’Hondt system probably already does this. And I suppose there is still a risk of splitting the vote. But it must be better than having only one candidate…?

]]> By: MatGB http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77250 MatGB Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:24:57 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77250 t's intentional, and needed, if parties put up too many candidates, they can end up not getting elected at all despite technically meeting quota. It happend in the most recent NI elections, the SDLP lst a seat because they put up three candidates instead of two. Agree though, they should put up one more than they think they can win. Have a look at sammymorse.livejournal.com for a lot more coverage, he only updates when there's an election on, used to be an elections agent over there. I haven't figured out yet how or where I can spend the night in Cowley St, pretty sure there'll be people about but... Still; vote with who you think the best candidates are, locals aren't really about parties anyway. Just don't tell my employers I said that... t’s intentional, and needed, if parties put up too many candidates, they can end up not getting elected at all despite technically meeting quota. It happend in the most recent NI elections, the SDLP lst a seat because they put up three candidates instead of two.

Agree though, they should put up one more than they think they can win. Have a look at sammymorse.livejournal.com for a lot more coverage, he only updates when there’s an election on, used to be an elections agent over there.

I haven’t figured out yet how or where I can spend the night in Cowley St, pretty sure there’ll be people about but…

Still; vote with who you think the best candidates are, locals aren’t really about parties anyway. Just don’t tell my employers I said that…

]]> By: Richard Leyton http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77109 Richard Leyton Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:40:51 +0000 http://doctorvee.co.uk/2007/04/30/a-problem-with-stv/#comment-77109 Agree entirely (<a href="http://www.leyton.org/diary/2007/04/11/scottish-elections-party-tactics-in-council-vote/">talked about this very issue recently on my blog</a>). It's better than FPTP by a long way, but still feeling rather strange: I wonder how it'd work if there was a councillor who needed to get kicked out for some indiscretion: Would enough folk know how to vote in order to achieve that specific aim, that's very easy in FPTP? I suppose we'll find out on Thursday/Friday, and perhaps get a bit more familiar with it's subtleties as results come in (hopefully in enough detail on a ward by ward basis). One things for sure though, we'll have a much more balanced spread of opinions. Glasgow's Labour council love-in (not sure what it's like over in Edinburgh) isn't likely to disappear overnight, but should ensure alternative views are heard. And that's got to be a good thing... right? Agree entirely (talked about this very issue recently on my blog). It’s better than FPTP by a long way, but still feeling rather strange: I wonder how it’d work if there was a councillor who needed to get kicked out for some indiscretion: Would enough folk know how to vote in order to achieve that specific aim, that’s very easy in FPTP?

I suppose we’ll find out on Thursday/Friday, and perhaps get a bit more familiar with it’s subtleties as results come in (hopefully in enough detail on a ward by ward basis). One things for sure though, we’ll have a much more balanced spread of opinions. Glasgow’s Labour council love-in (not sure what it’s like over in Edinburgh) isn’t likely to disappear overnight, but should ensure alternative views are heard. And that’s got to be a good thing… right?

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