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	<title>Comments on: Bob Piper isn&#8217;t a racist. He&#8217;s just a loud-mouthed boor</title>
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	<description>Not a real vee</description>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-732552</link>
		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder that, James... This is a two-year-old post. How come you&#039;ve left a comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder that, James&#8230; This is a two-year-old post. How come you&#8217;ve left a comment?</p>
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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-732546</link>
		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, that&#039;s a fair smattering of familiar names.  But why now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, that&#8217;s a fair smattering of familiar names.  But why now?</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-37935</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 00:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never mailed Iain on Friday - I don&#039;t know why Bob still doesn&#039;t believe that this would have got big without my bidding. I know Iain visited my site though because of the mybloglog. Bob had better track that imaginary e-mail down, cus it doesn&#039;t exist in my records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never mailed Iain on Friday &#8211; I don&#8217;t know why Bob still doesn&#8217;t believe that this would have got big without my bidding. I know Iain visited my site though because of the mybloglog. Bob had better track that imaginary e-mail down, cus it doesn&#8217;t exist in my records.</p>
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		<title>By: Longrider</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-37325</link>
		<dc:creator>Longrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, ducking *stool*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, ducking *stool*</p>
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		<title>By: Longrider</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-37324</link>
		<dc:creator>Longrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the Council’s legal officer has asked me to provide an assurance I won’t do it again. Well, I can’t do that, can I? To do that I would have to admit that what I posted from Unity was designed to cause racial offence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, yes, the old witch in the ducking school scenario. Or the prisoner before the parole board who must admit to guilt before being set free. Bit of a bugger if he is innocent.

Damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the Council’s legal officer has asked me to provide an assurance I won’t do it again. Well, I can’t do that, can I? To do that I would have to admit that what I posted from Unity was designed to cause racial offence.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, yes, the old witch in the ducking school scenario. Or the prisoner before the parole board who must admit to guilt before being set free. Bit of a bugger if he is innocent.</p>
<p>Damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Piper</title>
		<link>http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/12/13/bob-piper-isnt-a-racist-hes-just-a-loud-mouthed-boor/comment-page-1/#comment-37233</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a pretty fair summary of things, which given our &#039;previous&#039; errs on the generous side. I do go &#039;over the top&#039; , I can be rude and boorish, I don&#039;t tend to see a lot of grey. Perhaps this incident will be a lesson, I don&#039;t know. If you hold strong opinions and voice them, you&#039;re always going to get into a row. In a pub you could get a punch in the mouth, on a blog we tend to engage in rather petty slanging matches that escalate beyond their own life.

I suspect that blogging is for the less impetuous, a bit like e-mail, you fire off a fizzer. With a letter, or piece of written journalism, it takes time, you can correct it, calm down, so I&#039;m not really sure its for me. Although they say they have no intention of pursuing any action against me, the Council&#039;s legal officer has asked me to provide an assurance I won&#039;t do it again. Well, I can&#039;t do that, can I? To do that I would have to admit that what I posted from Unity was designed to cause racial offence. Well it wasn&#039;t, so other than write the standard &quot;Dustbins weren&#039;t empitied today in Summer Hill&quot;, I&#039;m not sure this blogging lark is for me. If I return in the future it won&#039;t be the same anyway (bloody good job I here people say) so I&#039;m off for a while to rethink.

Finally, on PragueTory. Iain will have known on Friday afternoon because in common with a lot of other Tory bloggers he will have had an e-mail from PT urging him to join in the &#039;let&#039;s kick Bob Piper about&#039; fun. Iain, as you say, like most of the other big hitters realised this was the politics of the playground bully and left PT to fight his own battles. Duncan, we have had our &#039;words&#039; as you quite rightly point out, but I have never, nor do I believe you have either, sought to get other people to fight our battles.

Finally, it is quite amazing that PT says he wants to remain anonymous (and unaccountable) for employment reasons whilst the Tories are busy calling for me to be sacked by the Labour Party for not remaining anonymous. Behaviour like we have seen in the last week will, if it continues, kill the notion of open debate on blogs, and either reduce it to an anodyne medium or a series of anonymous bloggers sticking their tongues out at each other.

Anyway, I&#039;m glad you took the trouble to say I&#039;m not racist. I&#039;m away now, just tidying up a few replies to this sort of posting.

Bob Piper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s a pretty fair summary of things, which given our &#8216;previous&#8217; errs on the generous side. I do go &#8216;over the top&#8217; , I can be rude and boorish, I don&#8217;t tend to see a lot of grey. Perhaps this incident will be a lesson, I don&#8217;t know. If you hold strong opinions and voice them, you&#8217;re always going to get into a row. In a pub you could get a punch in the mouth, on a blog we tend to engage in rather petty slanging matches that escalate beyond their own life.</p>
<p>I suspect that blogging is for the less impetuous, a bit like e-mail, you fire off a fizzer. With a letter, or piece of written journalism, it takes time, you can correct it, calm down, so I&#8217;m not really sure its for me. Although they say they have no intention of pursuing any action against me, the Council&#8217;s legal officer has asked me to provide an assurance I won&#8217;t do it again. Well, I can&#8217;t do that, can I? To do that I would have to admit that what I posted from Unity was designed to cause racial offence. Well it wasn&#8217;t, so other than write the standard &#8220;Dustbins weren&#8217;t empitied today in Summer Hill&#8221;, I&#8217;m not sure this blogging lark is for me. If I return in the future it won&#8217;t be the same anyway (bloody good job I here people say) so I&#8217;m off for a while to rethink.</p>
<p>Finally, on PragueTory. Iain will have known on Friday afternoon because in common with a lot of other Tory bloggers he will have had an e-mail from PT urging him to join in the &#8216;let&#8217;s kick Bob Piper about&#8217; fun. Iain, as you say, like most of the other big hitters realised this was the politics of the playground bully and left PT to fight his own battles. Duncan, we have had our &#8216;words&#8217; as you quite rightly point out, but I have never, nor do I believe you have either, sought to get other people to fight our battles.</p>
<p>Finally, it is quite amazing that PT says he wants to remain anonymous (and unaccountable) for employment reasons whilst the Tories are busy calling for me to be sacked by the Labour Party for not remaining anonymous. Behaviour like we have seen in the last week will, if it continues, kill the notion of open debate on blogs, and either reduce it to an anodyne medium or a series of anonymous bloggers sticking their tongues out at each other.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad you took the trouble to say I&#8217;m not racist. I&#8217;m away now, just tidying up a few replies to this sort of posting.</p>
<p>Bob Piper</p>
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