Comments on: The smoking ban: nice, but it’s gone too far http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/ Not a real vee Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:47:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: iced coffee words » if you see me smoking spank me http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-66604 iced coffee words » if you see me smoking spank me Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:25:07 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-66604 [...] there have been both positive and negative reports: bars smelling like sweaty armpits and urine (“At our particular corner it smelled of old man and old man urine. Nice”), business sales drop, people being laid off from bars and restaurants, Guinness sales drop, [...] [...] there have been both positive and negative reports: bars smelling like sweaty armpits and urine (“At our particular corner it smelled of old man and old man urine. Nice”), business sales drop, people being laid off from bars and restaurants, Guinness sales drop, [...]

]]> By: Stop Smoking Hypnosis http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-26138 Stop Smoking Hypnosis Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:56:37 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-26138 It just amazes me that the goverment waited for so long before doing anything constructive as to ban smoking in public places. Of course the Big Tobacco companies needed to make their vast profits first and establish a new customer base in the third world countries. Millions of people worldwide have stopped smoking and at last it is considered, "uncool" to smoke amongst young people. Thank goodness. I saw this really scary movie the other day at, www.easilystopsmoking.com click on the movie button. It is free and available to all but be warned, it is a little harsh. It just amazes me that the goverment waited for so long before doing anything constructive as to ban smoking in public places. Of course the Big Tobacco companies needed to make their vast profits first and establish a new customer base in the third world countries. Millions of people worldwide have stopped smoking and at last it is considered, “uncool” to smoke amongst young people. Thank goodness. I saw this really scary movie the other day at,
http://www.easilystopsmoking.com
click on the movie button. It is free and available to all but be warned, it is a little harsh.

]]> By: Caz http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-16768 Caz Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:01:51 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-16768 People forgot to mention the adverse effect its having on pub buisness. Since the ban, "local" pubs (not clubs or franchises) have had a hige drop of 11% in their buisness due to this ban. These are owned by usually couples who work there full time, maybe with the occasional part timer, they would have to be fired and one of the couple will have to get another job PLUS work full time in the bar. I know this because i used to be a part timer (before the ban) and they were non smoking. The lack of buisness meant we all had to work full time, and one of the owners had 2 jobs. Put 2 and 2 together, people will drink where they can smoke, at home... Also, i can't stand walking down the street anymore with roudy drunks standing outside flinging abuse at me, due to the fact they have to go outside... Way to go "democratic" scotland... People forgot to mention the adverse effect its having on pub buisness. Since the ban, “local” pubs (not clubs or franchises) have had a hige drop of 11% in their buisness due to this ban. These are owned by usually couples who work there full time, maybe with the occasional part timer, they would have to be fired and one of the couple will have to get another job PLUS work full time in the bar. I know this because i used to be a part timer (before the ban) and they were non smoking. The lack of buisness meant we all had to work full time, and one of the owners had 2 jobs. Put 2 and 2 together, people will drink where they can smoke, at home…

Also, i can’t stand walking down the street anymore with roudy drunks standing outside flinging abuse at me, due to the fact they have to go outside…

Way to go “democratic” scotland…

]]> By: doctorvee » Smoking? Never heard of it http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-16569 doctorvee » Smoking? Never heard of it Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:31:45 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-16569 [...] This smoking stuff is getting absurd now. I am not a fan of smoking, and I was borderline in favour of the smoking ban (actually, I would have preferred some kind of licensing arrangement). [...] [...] This smoking stuff is getting absurd now. I am not a fan of smoking, and I was borderline in favour of the smoking ban (actually, I would have preferred some kind of licensing arrangement). [...]

]]> By: Graeme http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9659 Graeme Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:46:02 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9659 Really good and thoughtful piece there. You may want to lock horns with a mate of mine who runs www.filthysmokers.com I'm not quite as vehement as he is (another of my mates is a reactionary 'social' smoker), but, as a gay man, have had to suffer much more obligatory exposure in my years. I've yet to visit any 'pink place' since Sunday but will be next weekend when it will be beautifully surreal! Really good and thoughtful piece there. You may want to lock horns with a mate of mine who runs http://www.filthysmokers.com

I’m not quite as vehement as he is (another of my mates is a reactionary ‘social’ smoker), but, as a gay man, have had to suffer much more obligatory exposure in my years. I’ve yet to visit any ‘pink place’ since Sunday but will be next weekend when it will be beautifully surreal!

]]> By: WisdomWeasel http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9648 WisdomWeasel Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:04:07 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9648 I am a smoker and I live in the most smoke adverse society on the planet but I don't have a problem with smoking bans. The state I live in, Maine, introduced a ban in pubs and restaurants about 3 years ago; I was iffy about it until I went out for a drink in a smoke free boozer. I was instantly converted. The place may have smelled like stale beer rather than stale smoke, but as long as I stayed vertical that smell was unlikely to attach itself to my clothes. If I wanted a smoke, I could step out into the garden; January in Maine is a month of deep negative temperatures, but the pub had provided a nice little propane heater for the smokers. The next moring my head ached a little but my eyes didn't sting and my throat didn't burn. As for a restaurant ban, I mean come on- people are eating! Show some manners; even without a ban, don't smoke around other's grub. One can yammer on about freedom all one wants but JS Mill pointed out that freedoms can only truly be considered so if they don't have a hugely negative impact on others. As for the stale beer smell, who thought absorbent carpeting was a good idea for a pub in the first place? I am a smoker and I live in the most smoke adverse society on the planet but I don’t have a problem with smoking bans. The state I live in, Maine, introduced a ban in pubs and restaurants about 3 years ago; I was iffy about it until I went out for a drink in a smoke free boozer. I was instantly converted. The place may have smelled like stale beer rather than stale smoke, but as long as I stayed vertical that smell was unlikely to attach itself to my clothes. If I wanted a smoke, I could step out into the garden; January in Maine is a month of deep negative temperatures, but the pub had provided a nice little propane heater for the smokers. The next moring my head ached a little but my eyes didn’t sting and my throat didn’t burn. As for a restaurant ban, I mean come on- people are eating! Show some manners; even without a ban, don’t smoke around other’s grub. One can yammer on about freedom all one wants but JS Mill pointed out that freedoms can only truly be considered so if they don’t have a hugely negative impact on others.

As for the stale beer smell, who thought absorbent carpeting was a good idea for a pub in the first place?

]]> By: Rob http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9645 Rob Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:18:32 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9645 Eventually a ban will start up in Wales (probably by the end of this year/early 2007) so it's interesting to hear the reaction to the ban north of the border. Here it seems that the ban has been driven by the politicians - the Welsh Assembly in particular is very keen on it - and just as in Scotland the public reaction seems to be a shrug, coupled with "Hey, OK." The interesting thing is that such a ban couldn't have been contemplated as recently as a couple of years ago, but now it's seen as a fait accompli. Eventually a ban will start up in Wales (probably by the end of this year/early 2007) so it’s interesting to hear the reaction to the ban north of the border. Here it seems that the ban has been driven by the politicians – the Welsh Assembly in particular is very keen on it – and just as in Scotland the public reaction seems to be a shrug, coupled with “Hey, OK.”

The interesting thing is that such a ban couldn’t have been contemplated as recently as a couple of years ago, but now it’s seen as a fait accompli.

]]> By: highrise http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9642 highrise Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:10:07 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9642 I bumped into the Kirkcaldy Convention for whom the Smoking Ban Does Not Apply at the railway station yesterday, and I'd guess that they were all in their early 20s; so replace 'youngsters' with 'people with even half a brain'. I bumped into the Kirkcaldy Convention for whom the Smoking Ban Does Not Apply at the railway station yesterday, and I’d guess that they were all in their early 20s; so replace ‘youngsters’ with ‘people with even half a brain’.

]]> By: Devil\'s Kitchen http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9641 Devil\'s Kitchen Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:02:02 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9641 <i>I heard that smoke-free pubs existed prior to the ban, but I certainly wouldn’t have been able to tell you where.</i> The White Hart in the Grassmarket was one. I was there last year and it smelled of stale beer, i.e. vomit. Perhaps they have changed the carpet since then. DK I heard that smoke-free pubs existed prior to the ban, but I certainly wouldn’t have been able to tell you where.

The White Hart in the Grassmarket was one. I was there last year and it smelled of stale beer, i.e. vomit. Perhaps they have changed the carpet since then.

DK

]]> By: MatGB http://doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/comment-page-1/#comment-9638 MatGB Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:41:45 +0000 http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/2006/03/28/the-smoking-ban-nice-but-its-gone-too-far/#comment-9638 Licensing would be my preferred response as well. It's also LDYS policy, which was nice to find out. Licensing would be my preferred response as well. It’s also LDYS policy, which was nice to find out.

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