Archive: 2006 February

I haven’t bothered reading very much about the Power Inquiry because I’ve heard from some that it’s pretty much predictable stuff (“a bit like a reformers greatest hits album”) and from others that it’s not actually that good. Besideswhich, there have been several reports that have made obvious common sense suggestions for electoral reform which have all been ignored by Labour, so there’s no reason to believe why this new one should be any reason to get optimistic.

But I was interested by this post on Jawbox about the votes at 16 idea. Ben Phillips is, if I remember correctly, not yet old enough to vote (please correct me if this is wrong) and it is intriguing that he is not in favour of lowering the voting age.

Before I hit 18 I was in favour of votes at 16, but now I’m not so sure. (And the steady journey to becoming an old Tory codger continues apace.) Of course, it all looks very different when you’re on the other side of the barrier. I know little about it, although I guess fewer men than women were in favour of women’s suffrage, and so on.

Ben is worried that sixteen year olds are more likely to vote BNP or just vote for who their parents tell them to because they’re more impressionable. It’s a good point, although I would have thought that people will always tend to vote the way their parents did, often because of shared heritage, socioeconomic reasons and so on. I probably began disagreeing with my parents at the age of about 14, and today at 19 I probably spend more time disagreeing than agreeing with him. But we’re all different. It’s difficult to believe, though, that people will turn 18 and all of a sudden at the click of your fingers they will no longer vote BNP or just blindly follow their parents.

By the same token, though, there is no reason why that should be the case at 16 either. I also agree with Ben that if a youngster is going to be interested in current affairs and politics, he’s going to be interested anyway, regardless of whether they get to vote at 16, 18, 21 or 6.

18-year-olds are pretty impressionable as well though. There are many who think that the voting age should be set at 21, and at times it’s easy to see why. At university it is difficult to encounter anybody who isn’t busy trying to have the most trendy and right-on political views. Indeed, Edinburgh students have just voted in that enormous bore Mark “Who? (Green list MSP)” Ballard as rector, presumably because he’s a Green, and that’s trendy and right-on.

Does this make their opinions worthless though? Of course it doesn’t. So where should the age limit be set? I really don’t know. I would probably still say 16. But I think the age itself isn’t so important. Growing up, it’s difficult to know when you become an adult. At 16 you can get married (in Scotland at least), are expected to be responsible enough to raise a child, make the decision to smoke yourself to death, and be sent off to fight a war by a government that you haven’t voted for. At 17 you’re let loose on the roads. At 18 you can vote, but there are still many rights yet to be granted.

Moreover, sixteen-year-olds are unique because they have direct experience of one of politics’ greatest hot potatoes, education. By that age, people take their education pretty seriously, so it’s fair to say that they would vote sensibly on the issue according to what they perceive to be their best interests. These are the people that are really affected by education policies, so why are they given the right to vote as soon as they leave school?

That’s why I think 16 is probably right on balance. But who am I to say that the age limits for marrying, smoking, etc, shouldn’t be raised to 18? I’m not all that fussed about it any more — but then it’s easy to say that standing on this side of the barrier.

Saddam Hussein today realised that not eating will make you ill.

Saddam Hussein has ended an 11-day hunger strike for “health reasons”, his chief lawyer has said.

Via Shuggy.

On the launch of Liberty Central:

Civil liberties are all very well, but if it’s the Labour Party shitting on them there’s no way I’m getting in their way.”

That just sums it up doesn’t it?

Here’s a good one.

I’ve got an immediate aversion to anything which smells of coalition…

Interesting. What does that even mean? A bit of Labour Party history may be a help here. Because the Labour Party began as a coalition of various left-wing political parties, the Fabian Society, trade unions and other working class organisations. And there’s this from Wikipedia:

The [Labour Representation Committee] won 29 seats in the 1906 election, helped by the secret 1903 pact between Ramsay Macdonald and Liberal Chief Whip Herbert Gladstone which aimed at avoiding Labour/Liberal contests in the interest of removing the Conservatives from office. In their first meeting after the election, the group’s Members of Parliament decided to take the name “The Labour Party”… [T]he party did not have an individual membership until 1918 and operated as a conglomerate of affiliated bodies until that date.

I suppose he’ll be ripping up his Labour membership card this evening then, especially given that his party today is in coalition with the Co-operative Party. Besides which, surely all political parties are coalitions of one form or another, given that they are all alliances of people who, given that they are individuals (although you can never quite be sure of this with Labour), must have subtly differing political views?

Let’s see if Bob Piper can reply with something that isn’t just abusive name-calling, which is his usual debating technique.

I meant to blog about this ages ago, but I forgot. I found out about this cool set of mashuper style things, mixing together the tracks from Autechre’s latest album, Untilted, with some of their earliest releases in the early 1990s.

I wasn’t sure if I was going to download the whole lot, but when I heard ‘LCC’ mixed with ‘Second Bad Vilbel’ I was super impressed. It’s certainly interesting to hear the old and new styles of Autechre juxtaposed like this, especially since so many people perceive such a big gap between their pre- and post-Chiastic Slide material. Some of this works really well, and some of it is rather more contrived. But if you’re interested in Autechre I’d give it a listen.

Via The Xylin Room (Ae LJ community).

Just a wee one to say that I’ve updated the blogroll today. It’s one of those things to do on a boring Saturday, isn’t it? I always do it on a Saturday.

The already disgusting length of the blogroll has increased further, fully justifying my decision to take it off the front page and ghettoise it in the links page. Anyway, usually I remove a good few (usually dormant blogs), but I only removed two or three, and I added about a dozen. A blog is born every second. It’s like bacteria. The good bacteria, obviously.

Good to see more Scottish (Edinburgh) (political) bloggers, I like that.