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The problems with the electoral system

18 April 2005 18:44

If I were Prime Minister for one day, do you know what I would do first? I would change the electoral system. There seem to be so many problems with our democracy at the moment that it’s difficult to know where to start. This isn’t just a problem for us here in the UK. What gives our government the right to criticise pseudo-democracies? People like Putin could simply point out the flaws in our own system — he already did that to George Bush. This isn’t a small matter.

Postal votes

Most recently there has been the scandal of postal voting. You don’t need me to tell you that if the main story on May the 6th is not the result of the election, but about possible electoral fraud, then that is a very serious situation indeed. Everybody now knows that postal votes are highly susceptible to fraud. The Electoral Commission said that postal votes are “hopelessly insecure.”

Short of writing ‘Steal Me’ on the envelopes, it is hard to see what more could be done to ensure their coming into the wrong hands.

Not for the first time, the Labour government has ignored the advice of the Electoral Commission. Fair enough, perhaps. Maybe it was too close to the election to make substantial changes to the system. But that doesn’t make things any better for the General Election on May the 5th. In the meantime, all three parties are bending the rules, going against the spirit of the Electoral Commission’s code of conduct. None of the major parties will come out of this well. Postal voting should be urgently looked at after the election. It is a farce.

The West Lothian Question

Then there is the small problem of the constitutional mess that is the West Lothian Question. I am in favour of devolution. It simply makes sense to me for UK-wide issues to be legislated on at a UK-wide level, for national and regional issues to be legislated on at a national or regional level, and for local issues at a local level. Add the fact that Scotland has always had a separate legal system and a separate education system, amongst other things, I believe that setting up a Scottish Parliament was the right thing.

But now that we do have a separate Parliament for Scotland and Assemblies for Wales and Northern Ireland, the result has been a constitutional nightmare. In Blair’s cabinet John Reid — a Scottish MP elected in a Scottish constituency — is Health Secretary. Health is a devolved issue. As such, he isn’t being held to account for his actions as Health Secretary, because his constituents are not affected one jot by them. The same goes for Alistair Darling, Transport Secretary. I admit I have been very surprised that more hasn’t been made of this. It is a scandal.

There is the more high-profile case of Scottish MPs voting on English matters such as fox hunting and tuition fees. This is more of a grey area in my opinion though. Tuition fees can still be said to be a Scottish issue, because it affects Scottish students who go to study south of the border. Nevertheless, it is inherently unfair that Scottish MPs can have a say in these matters whilst English MPs have no say over devolved Scottish issues.

You could just say it’s simply a matter of banning Scottish MPs from holding ministerial jobs that affect England only, or banning Scottish MPs from voting on English-only issues. But this would create a whole array of problems itself. For one thing, English MPs would have more power in Westminster than Scottish or Welsh MPs. We would have one set of rules for Northern Irish MPs, then another set for Welsh MPs, another set for Scottish MPs and yet another set for English MPs. That cannot the most desirable solution.

Infact, the only solution, in my mind, is for regional assemblies or a national assembly to be set up in England, and for all of the devolved assemblies to have the same powers. Voters in the North East had their chance to take us further in this direction, and they scuppered it. I have had less sympathy for England’s argument since then. Something must be done though.

There are those who would say that they would rather have a national English Parliament. Certainly, these are the people who make the most noise about it. Personally I wouldn’t have thought that that would be the best option — England is almost as wide and diverse as Great Britain, and it’s difficult to see how and English Assembly would be more effective that the UK Parliament. Not to forget that Cornwall has its own nationalist movement. Nevertheless, this is a decision for the English to take. Hurry up and get on with it please, so that we can have an end to this current mess!

The voting system

The votes themselves are equally problematic. We don’t live in a Presidential democracy. But inevitably the national campaign focusses on political parties and their leaders. People often talk about “voting for Blair,” but the only people who can do that are the people of Sedgefield. I might talk about voting for the Liberal Democrats, but I don’t think that’s a good way to think about things either. But this is unavoidable. I certainly can’t think of a solution, bar banning political parties, which probably wouldn’t be terribly helpful either.

I am concerned about the way people think about their vote though. There are a variety of things to take into consideration when voting, and yet we only have one vote. What does the vote do? What is it for? Am I voting for a Prime Minister? Am I voting for a particular party? Gordon Brown is standing in my constituency, so should I be voting on the basis of his work as Chancellor? Should I vote on the basis of whatever cabinet position he might have after the election? Or should I just choose the candidate who I think will be the best at representing the interests of me as a constituent?

It’s a lot of things to consider, which means that it can be a complex decision to make. And yet I’ve got just one poxy vote. To make matters worse, the voting system is so ridiculously perverse that it waters that one vote down so much that it becomes almost meaningless — especially in a safe seat like Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath.

The current voting system used in the General Election currently benefits the Labour Party only. It is simple to demonstrate this. Take a seat calculator such as this one from the BBC and try to give the three major parties 33% of the votes. As you can see, Labour end up having about 120 more seats than the Conservatives, and a disgusting 250 seats more than the Liberal Democrats, despite the fact that all three parties have exactly the same number of votes.

This has led to people not actually voting they way they would like to. Tactical voting isn’t pretty. And 38% say that they would vote for the Liberal Democrats if they thought they had a chance. 38% was higher than Labour’s contemporary poll ratings. What kind of a democracy is it when people are put off from voting for their party of choice? The two-party system created by First Past the Post is abhorrent, and must be smashed. I believe also that First Past the Post was designed to be so simple so that illiterate people could understand it. So we have a deliberately stupid voting system.

It’s not just the UK Parliament voting system that is problematic. Here in Scotland we have no fewer than four different voting systems — First Past the Post for Westminster; Additional Member System for the Holyrood; party lists for the European Parliament; and Single Transferable Vote for local councils.

Not only this, but we now have four different sets of boundaries to get to grips with. I’m not for a second suggesting that local council boundaries should be the same as Westminster boundaries, and the European boundaries aren’t too difficult to get to grips with (Scotland, and… yeah). But despite the Westminster boundary changes, Holyrood will be sticking with the old ones. That’s pretty confusing.

In my mind, it ought to be absolutely clear to everybody that this is an intolerable situation. We need to choose a system, use them for all elections if possible and stick with it. So what system should be chosen? A party list system is undesirable, as it gives political parties too much of a say in who gets voted in. Representatives become answerable to party leaders as opposed to the voters. The Additional Member System is undesirable for the same reasons, not to mention the fact that it creates ‘two tiers’ of representatives.

In my opinion, the Single Transferable Vote system is the least-worst system. It’s more proportional, reducing the need for tactical voting. People will be able to actually vote for the candidates they want in. And it maintains a constituency link.

In 1997 Labour promised electoral reform. When the Electoral Commission got back to them, Labour ignored the advice, deciding to carry on with the unfair system. After all, turkeys don’t vote for Christmas.

There is hope on the horizon though. After the Scottish Parliament’s then Presiding Officer, David Steel, criticised the AMS system for creating two tiers of MSPs, there was talk about switching the voting system to Single Transferable Vote. But some Scottish Socialist supporters saw this as a deliberate attempt to reduce the number of SSP MSPs, and I’ve not heard anything about it for a long time. While they’re at it they can sort the boundaries out. If they really must keep having 129 MSPs, they could at least just bung in an extra MSP for each STV constituency.

Meanwhile Labour are said to be looking at electoral reform once again. Frankly I’ll believe it when I see it. It takes the prospect of a Conservative victory in 2009 / 2010 to kick-start Labour into action, but that’s fine by me — so long as reform happens.

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  1. #1 Bob Piper
    18 April 2005 22:46

    Perhaps you could read http://www.talkpolitics.co.uk/ for an explanation of the misconceived election calculator.

  2. #2 doctorvee
    18 April 2005 23:04

    Trust a Labour man to stick up for a flawed system.

    So FPTP is a perfect system then is it? You don’t need any seat calculator to immediately see how unfair FPTP is. You just need to look at the results of every election under FPTP there has been.

  3. #3 doctorvee
    18 April 2005 23:15

    Having now read the article, I am not sure exactly what the point you’re making is. You’re assuming that I didn’t know that the Seat Calculator is based on the 2001 results. But of course I knew this. I know Labour like to think people are stupid, but we really aren’t you know!

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that areas which had a relatively high level of support in 2001 will once again have a relatively high level of support on May 5th.

    The article also talks about how the seat calculator doesn’t take account of the “meltdown of Toryism” in Scotland. The meltdown began before 1997. The Tories had no seats in Scotland in 1997. With the current boundaries they would have won no seats in 2001 either. They are highly unlikely to win any seats this year.

    Given that the article had previously criticised the seat calculator for being based on 2001 results, it is quite hilarious that it should then suggest that it doesn’t take into account the lack of support for Conservatives in Scotland, when the Tories were every bit as unpopular — if not more so — in 2001 as they are now.

  4. #4 doctorvee
    18 April 2005 23:21

    I’m intrigued by that comment by Bloggers4Labour aswell.

    Obviously there is a discrepancy in the size of constituencies, and Labour-held ones are less populous. However, it is entirely the fault of the Tories that they are unable to win those small seats in a straight fight.

    That is a little bit like saying, “Of course some people are shorter than others, but it is a small person’s fault if he can not beat a tall person in a height competition.”

    I thought Labour were meant to be in favour of helping the disadvantaged! Mind you, you can never tell these days…

  5. #5 Garry
    19 April 2005 00:03

    Having just read your rather excellent post and Councillor Bob’s link, I’m struggling to see what point he was trying to make. Does it address the unfairness of the FPTP system in any way? I think not.
    And as for postal voting fraud, any controversy after the election will no doubt be used as “another good reason why we should introduce ID cards”.

  6. #6 Bob Piper
    20 April 2005 16:30

    Dr… I don’t necessarily assume you are stupid, but when you comment on an article I refer you to and make a value judgement about it… you prove that you are. Garry, the FPTP system is unfair, but I prefer that to decisions about who will rule the country being made in backrooms away from the view of the electorate. In 1979 Paddy Pantsdown and Blair had made it as public as they could that the Liberal Democrats, supported by less than 20% of those that vote, would be the tail that wagged the Labour dog.

  7. #7 doctorvee
    20 April 2005 17:04

    Ah, stupid for having an opinion. Got ya.

    I don’t see how the formation of a two-party cabinet is any more behind closed doors than when the just one party is involved.

  8. #8 Garry
    21 April 2005 13:51

    Bob, I know that PR has it’s problems but it has to be better than what we have now: “President Blair” having absolute authority with 41% of the vote. (approx, I haven’t had time to look it up). I remember a commitment regarding this in a 1997 manifesto which has since been “forgotten”. Can you tell me whose it was?

  9. #9 Bob Piper
    21 April 2005 18:53

    Garry… probably President Blair’s commitment. Shows how weak a President he is. Doc, the stupidity is commenting on something BEFORE you’e read it.

  10. #10 doctorvee
    22 April 2005 20:04

    …But I didn’t.

    Funny how you should nit-pick about whether or not I should have posted comment #3 six minutes earlier, yet totally ignore the criticisms of the post on Talk Politics…

  11. #11 Garry
    23 April 2005 23:25

    Bob. I’m sorry but I’m confused. I though you were a Labour man but you seem to agree that Blair is weak. Have I got this wrong?
    Anyway, I’d say that Blair renaged on his commitment to introduce PR only because he realised he could stay in power longer under FPTP.
    I don’t think it has any relation to the amount of power he has over policy decisions. Whichever way you look at it it is undeniably a broken promise.

  12. #12 Gareth
    1 May 2005 18:24

    Re: “Hurry up and get on with it please”

    Wish that it were that easy. Unlike Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland the UK government won’t allow us to have a referendum on how we wish to be governed.

  13. #13 Peter Swales
    13 February 2007 15:46

    Could you make an inquiry into Hafod Housing Association? A Schizophrenic by the name of Rhys Humphreys is in control of the Association and staff. I am the culprit he is trying to control. If you analyse my past I am not a sufferer of mental Illness. POST-WAR (survivor). PLEASE HELP. Peter

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